Correct.
Women think they hold the ace, but what they don't realize is a guy can play a damn mean hand with less.

You guys date weird women, then.

Just saying.

I for one am not one of these women. I think it's WEIRD if my boyfriend doesn't masturbate.

yeah, so do I, it's sorta super normal.

Since were on the sex topic here goes a question. How come each time I have sex with someone (and I dont mean anything from 1st to 3rd) afterwords I seem to find them less attractive and slightly more annoying? There not all one night stands, there all different. Does this make me a horrible person? Its one of those things I really have no control over, but am pretty embarrassed about. This is something that will not be leaving the forum, because I am pretty sure its not a good thing.

look man, i was just tryin to keep your bakery bill down

when i was in 6th year at school there was this weirdo boy who claimed he had never had a wank.
this is why he was considered a weirdo :laughing:, nah that wasnt it, but it was partially it.
i would find it pretty weird if my boyfriend (thats non-existent) didnt masturbate.

edit: 6th year being the last academic year possible in britain, for you americans, i dont know what year this would be to yous!

I think that might be a natural thing with a lot of people. I notice the same thing in some cases of my own.
Generally if I know a relationship won't be following the deed, I tend to not be looking for the good aspects of the girl, and I guess focusing on the negative aspects is a way to subconsciously feel better about a hit & run. Kind of a self-justification process that helps keep you at a distance because you don't intend on falling for that person.
Usually I don't get that way in a relationship though, so if you do that regardless of the situation, there might be another factor in play.

I have a question, do you celebrate a 3 year relationship anniversary if the relationship had random short breaks/ on again-off again situation?

Do you want to celebrate it?

Anniversary? Peh, bull**** rituals couples force unto themselves to ignore the fact that all the time between these contrived sharts were laced in disatisfaction and misery. Make everyday a commemoration of love or none at all.

I'm going to take a nap, I stayed up till' 5 last night. Christ. . .

Word to the motherfucking up

My chili never got stirred....

My chili tastes like shit.

I didn't mean celebrate, as in go out and celebrate that one day... I meant acknowledge that you're been together for that long. Like... how do you measure relationships if you weren't together for the whole time?

By the times you were together, how much do they mean to you?

You measure by the fact that you're together at that moment, regardless of the past troubles or separations.
Some people use an occasion to mark that measurement, and some simply communicate their appreciation of it when it's most needed.

There's no need to rely on a formula. As far as you're concerned, you let the person know you're appreciative of the fact that your relationship is what it is at this moment and you don't really need to meet a criteria to observe it.

If you're getting hung up on precise quantification of how long, in days, you've been in a relationship... you're really focusing on the wrong thing.

i will have to stir at a later date due to a saturday night ritual and a grilled cheese sandwhich, but rest assured stirrin will convene soon

lol i laughed a lot reading this. Hoorah for chili.

i'm gonna need some chili stirin of my own,....


who of my very dearest friends are breaking up,....

krista is very,...earth mother ish,...

jake,...jake references the strokes in everything and wears skinny jeans

i adore them both,....but in the past few days their break up has turned very very very ugly,...they live together which just complicates it more,....and they both are useing me to vent,...

they arent askin me to take sides,....but its just, alot for me to take
i have my own things i'm dealing with and while i dont mind 'being there' for them both, i just feel like i'm gettin alot of toxic things dumped on me
and i'm the type of person that processes peoples stuff for them, but all of this is just way to much for me right now

its almost like my parents are divorcing again

thats a tough one. The only things you can really do are to just keep listening and doing what you can at your own expense or to just let them know "hey you know what, this is just getting to be too much for me to handle. I'm really sorry i'd like to help you work through this, but I have other things on my mind right now and i just can't handle it. I still love you both though"
Other than that, there really isn't anything unless you want to get really creative and have them write things down instead. You can be there for them without having to let yourself get toxic waste dumped all over you. There is a middle ground, its just a little bit harder to stay there.

I've been in that situation way too many times. Don't get in the middle of it. Love them. Show them you love them. Talk about the situation only sometimes. Try to get their minds off of it. It's not your pressure, don't do this to yourself.

Great advice Savy. Take it.

its not your place to take sides as their boths friends, I would take a step back and explain your buckling under the pressure they're putting on you to pick sides. you have to explain that to them, and explain how you feel about their split the "its almost like my parents are divorcing again" i think they would then realise its unfair to put this sort of pressure on you!

thank you,...all of you,...

i dont even know that they realize what they are doing to me,...and to each other,...
krista just cries, and jake is doing this thing where he says the worst things he can think of,...and i know he only does that because he has to get angry at her to get over her,....i dont want to take that anger away from him, i think he needs it,....

i'm just not answering my phone these days

Good. Just leave them be. They need to do this by themselves first.

You have yourself to focus on.

And your mascara. ^_^