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Old 09-13-2009, 09:35 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Does anyone go through an artistic process in their dreams, a few weeks ago I composed what I thought was a brilliantly clever poem in a dream, and even when I was mostly awake I still had the feeling that the wordplay was good. But I dropped the ball and didn't write it down, now I can't get it back.
The last month I've been saying jokes in my dreams that I feel are hilarious, to wake up to see that they may be witty but not that funny. I never wrote songs in my sleep, but I definitely made some good paintings, I try to sketch them sometimes [But in dreams, all the imageries can be used in drawings, so I don't think that counts]
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I haven't been remembering my dreams as much lately,.
You remember dreams when you're disturbed during REM, which is the period of sleep in which dreams occur. If you don't remember your dreams it's a pretty good indicator that you're getting good, undisturbed sleep.
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Old 09-13-2009, 04:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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You remember dreams when you're disturbed during REM, which is the period of sleep in which dreams occur. If you don't remember your dreams it's a pretty good indicator that you're getting good, undisturbed sleep.
Thats not true. You dont remember your dreams because you dont have experience remembering them... Being disturbed in REM is not necessarily how one remembers.
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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As a general and overarching statement it has more truth than your assertions. You're talking about people specifically trying to remember dreams, I'm talking about people in general.

Research indicates:
Dreams happen during REM.
REM is the rejuvenating part of sleep.
You're more likely to remember your dream if you're awoken during REM, whilst aspects remain in short term memory so that you have the opportunity to commit them to long term memory.
If you are a normal person not putting stress on remembering dreams and bed down for a good nights sleep to wake up refreshed in the morning, remembering your dreams is an indication that REM is being disturbed and you're a restless sleeper. If you have few dreams you're a deep sleeper and your REM is allowed to complete it's cycles, meaning you wake up more refreshed.

In the instance of people who sleep with the purpose of intentionally trying to remember their dreams that raises whole other questions about the ability to consciously commit the dream to long term memory whilst in a subconscious state. It's a separate discussion to the point I was making.
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
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In the instance of people who sleep with the purpose of intentionally trying to remember their dreams that raises whole other questions about the ability to consciously commit the dream to long term memory whilst in a subconscious state.
I think this also raises questions about the quality of sleep one gets when having a lucid dream. I wonder if being mentally aware during REM makes you less refreshed in the morning.
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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This is hard to determine, primarily because it's entirely possible that we do not wake up during all lucid dreams and thus do not remember having had them. It's therefore impossible for the layman to determine whether they're especially tired from the lucid dream, or just tired from having been woken during REM. As far as I'm aware there's not been developed a hard and fast way to test this.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:33 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Every time I have one, I always end up flying around. Quite an experience!!
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have always so badly wanted to be able to lucid dream and make myself fly. Always. But I never can. My dreams are always either one end of the spectrum or the other - either I'm completely unconsciously immersed in my dreams that I have no control whatsoever, so I've realised it's a dream and woken up. The most I've ever been able to control myself doing in a dream is turning off a light switch. And even then I woke up immediately.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I usually fly in almost every dream, tho they're never lucid. My uncontrolled dreams are already amazing enough.
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #40 (permalink)
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The other night I pulled an all nighter to get all my work done...I ended up falling asleep and drooling on my lab report (haha gross i know) but i was supposed to be making up choreography for my Show Choir practice that morning and I dreamed (lucidly, my first ever!) that I was graphing the dance (as i fell asleep graphing my biology lab results). I was aware that it made no sense in the dream and kept trying to wake myself up to finish, but i couldn't (unfortunetely, i ended up having to turn in things late...)

anyway, the points are:
1. WOOOOOOO i finally had a lucid dream! (though this one was based on stress rather than meditation)!
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2. Don't try to make up a dance and do your lab report at the same time!
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