Why Zune owners get so upset when you call their Zunes Ipods.

Arya Stark · 08-27-2009, 02:42 PM

I have a Zune.

I don't get upset when they call it iPod.

So I don't know what you're saying.

Barnard17 · 08-27-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I think the only people who don't think that way are the people who buy things for the popularity status and nothing more.

So you mean most people then ...

I have an iPod. Not because of peer pressure (though that helped) but before I got one lots of people were like "oh you don't have an iPod then?" or "oh it's trying to look like an iPod" or something vaguely along those lines. Of the people that don't have iPods and stick to things like the Creative Zen or, nowadays, the Zune many will often have a dislike of iPods that far out stripes the time they took to consider how the different machines match up. Human nature is far more susceptible to advertising power (or an obstinate rejection there of) than logic and reason.

Freebase Dali · 08-27-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnard17

So you mean most people then ...

I have an iPod. Not because of peer pressure (though that helped) but before I got one lots of people were like "oh you don't have an iPod then?" or "oh it's trying to look like an iPod" or something vaguely along those lines. Of the people that don't have iPods and stick to things like the Creative Zen or, nowadays, the Zune many will often have a dislike of iPods that far out stripes the time they took to consider how the different machines match up. Human nature is far more susceptible to advertising power (or an obstinate rejection there of) than logic and reason.

Nah I understand where you're coming from.
By popularity status, I mean it can go both ways... Some people buy underdog out of disdain for popular things, and some people just buy because it's the only thing they know.
I just think purchases should be made because people like what they're buying. And when that's the case, maybe they're proud of the product they purchased and don't like others mistaking it for something else.

It's just kinda messed up when there are people out there that, because of aggressive advertising and inadequate researching, don't even realize the other options that are available to them.

Dim Mak · 08-27-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787

I don't see anything in his post that signals he was upset, he just answered your question.
But I have noticed that Zune users are more passionate about there Zunes. A lot of people choose Zune because they hate Itunes and maybe want to shwo you there hatred towards it. Like maybe if I was listening to a band and someoen came up to me and was like "Is that Creed you're listening to?" I'd respond with something like "Hell no, they suck."

The following sounds like a threat to me.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Now if you created this tread just to bash on Zunes and Zune owners then I'm going to have to close it.

When I have said nothing demeaning about Zunes to anyone. I just thought it was KIND of funny that Loathsome SEEMED so defensive.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Dim... I don't own a Zune or an iPOD. I have a Sony, which I don't even use.
But strictly speaking from a neutral perspective, I think people just get annoyed because iPOD's brand name has become a common noun.
It's the same thing with Google...
When someone suggests you search for something on the internet, they say "Google it"... Meanwhile, there are plenty of other search engines out there and a lot of people use them. But the success of Google, and iPOD respectively, has made these brands/company names synonymous with common terms.

I can't say whether it's jealousy that fuels anger about this, but I'm sure there's a certain amount of brand-loyalty purism behind the pride one holds for his/her investments.
It's not a bad thing, really. I guess Zune purchasers are just proud of their MP3 player and don't want it to be confused with something they don't actually like.

Freebase very nice inputs as usual. I too wanted to remain neutral throughout this, but somehow I became the bad guy along the way.

LoathsomePete · 08-27-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dim Mak

The following sounds like a threat to me.

When I have said nothing demeaning about Zunes to anyone. I just thought it was KIND of funny that Loathsome SEEMED so defensive.

Freebase very nice inputs as usual. I too wanted to remain neutral throughout this, but somehow I became the bad guy along the way.

Stop trying to play the victim, you made an assumption off of two or three people's reactions

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Here in the last week or so I have had two or three people abruptly correct me for calling thier Zune an Ipod. It seems like if someone called an Ipod a Zune no one would get upset.

Even the topic title "Why Zune Owners get so upset yaddi yaddi yada" implies all Zune Owners and not just some.

Now perhaps I may have been a little quick to bring up the idea of locking this thread and this is my first official day as a moderator so there will be some bumps like this along the way until I get fully accustomed to the job itself.

The threat of a lockdown was not just based at you Dim Mak, but anyone who wants to start a bitch fest over who's mp3 player is better. I did not mean to make you feel like that comment was directly related to you (perhaps I should have worded it better) and I apologize if I offended you. This thread has potential to turn into a decent debate over the pros and cons of certain mp3 players.

Freebase Dali · 08-27-2009, 04:34 PM

Indeed. I like learning about other people's motivations behind certain media influenced tendencies.
It's sort of a way to work out the intricacies of my own.

VeggieLover · 08-27-2009, 04:47 PM

I recently got a zune (red 8GB..so cute

) and love it, and ya, i would correct you if you called it an iPod. For one, I did a lot of shopping around to find the best quality player for the lowest price. Almost all of my friends that have an iPod got it from their mommys and didn't even bother to think twice about how much it cost. They don't care if they drop it and it breaks because hey, the new ones coming out in a week and they were going to get a new one anyway.

That mindset is my least favorite thing about my peers, and so, I'm going to do almost everything I can to avoid getting lumped in with that group of people. Its a generalization (some kids actually payed for and protect their iPods) but hey, so is this entire thread.

Plus, Zunes don't have as many legal restrictions as iPod and iTunes do. And, all the new iPods are so freaking tiny and light that i can barely feel them in my hand. Very annoying.

Oh, but PS, since i got my Zune for so cheap (its probably refurbished or something) the battery simply will NOT hold a charge. If i charge it all the way, turn it off, and come back 12 hours later, the battery is dead again... does anyone else have this problem? None of the reviews mentioned it. Maybe i just got a faulty unit.

Barnard17 · 08-27-2009, 05:05 PM

Contact supplier and ask if it's under warranty. In the UK manufacturers are required to provide a 1 year, fit for use warranty and will service/replace it failing that. If it is refurbished it may just need the old battery replacing, which is common with that sort of thing for the battery to stop holding a charge after a good amount of use.

VeggieLover · 08-27-2009, 05:08 PM

ya thats what i figured. thanks

just wondering, is this a commen problem with zune? or is it just mere happenstance?

Barnard17 · 08-27-2009, 05:18 PM

It's a common problem with anything. Laptops, Zunes, iPods, phones, cameras. Anything that uses a rechargeable battery, the battery will only have so many hours of use in it before it starts to degrade.

08-27-2009, 04:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Indeed. I like learning about other people's motivations behind certain media influenced tendencies. It's sort of a way to work out the intricacies of my own. __________________

08-27-2009, 04:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
VeggieLover Music?! Lets boogie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CO Posts: 215	I recently got a zune (red 8GB..so cute ) and love it, and ya, i would correct you if you called it an iPod. For one, I did a lot of shopping around to find the best quality player for the lowest price. Almost all of my friends that have an iPod got it from their mommys and didn't even bother to think twice about how much it cost. They don't care if they drop it and it breaks because hey, the new ones coming out in a week and they were going to get a new one anyway. That mindset is my least favorite thing about my peers, and so, I'm going to do almost everything I can to avoid getting lumped in with that group of people. Its a generalization (some kids actually payed for and protect their iPods) but hey, so is this entire thread. Plus, Zunes don't have as many legal restrictions as iPod and iTunes do. And, all the new iPods are so freaking tiny and light that i can barely feel them in my hand. Very annoying. Oh, but PS, since i got my Zune for so cheap (its probably refurbished or something) the battery simply will NOT hold a charge. If i charge it all the way, turn it off, and come back 12 hours later, the battery is dead again... does anyone else have this problem? None of the reviews mentioned it. Maybe i just got a faulty unit. __________________ "Not remotely! Because iocaine comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you."

08-27-2009, 05:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	Contact supplier and ask if it's under warranty. In the UK manufacturers are required to provide a 1 year, fit for use warranty and will service/replace it failing that. If it is refurbished it may just need the old battery replacing, which is common with that sort of thing for the battery to stop holding a charge after a good amount of use. __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

08-27-2009, 05:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
VeggieLover Music?! Lets boogie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CO Posts: 215	ya thats what i figured. thanks just wondering, is this a commen problem with zune? or is it just mere happenstance? __________________ "Not remotely! Because iocaine comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you."

08-27-2009, 05:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	It's a common problem with anything. Laptops, Zunes, iPods, phones, cameras. Anything that uses a rechargeable battery, the battery will only have so many hours of use in it before it starts to degrade. __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps