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Old 07-31-2009, 09:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Suicide is acceptable in some extreme situations, and an ignorant way out in most others. If you are lobotomized, maimed, disfigured, paralyzed or otherwise living a life not-worth living due to the sheer difficulty of physically being alive... maybe suicide is the answer. However, killing yourself for reasons like; "The people at Taco Bell don't put enough cheese on my Mexican pizza", or "the love of my life is more interested in the Paleontology professor at Uni" seems a bit selfish to me. You are willing to traumatize the people in your life who have the rest of their lives to live still... yet you think that your "pain" is so great that nothing else matters. That IS why people kill themselves... nothing else matters to them, they stopped caring, they gave up... I don't care what silly-ass justification they give... the real answer is that they are quitters. If you have noone who loves you or is a part of your life and you feel like you need to commit suicide... sod off. At least try to make it neat so someone else doesn't have to clean up your cowardly blood. Suicide is by-and-large pathetic, and I hope that none of my loved ones commit suicide because I will take them off the loved ones list immediately. If your actual opinion is "it won't matter how other people will feel" - then please, do us all a favor and get the **** out of here, you probably aren't contributing much to anyone else anyway.
I'd have to disagree with you there Ethan. You do realise a lot of people who commit suicide do so under the mental disorder known as depression? When one is depressed it's a lot harder than you think to see any light through the tunnel, and without the right help being found for them they may never recover and take extreme measures such as suicide?

I'm not saying this is for everyone who does it, but unless you can feel what they feel before they do commit/attempt suicide you'll never understand what it's like. I am in no way excusing suicide as an option though, it must be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately those left behind often blame themselves due to the lack of reasoning behind the act.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:00 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I'd have to disagree with you there Ethan. You do realise a lot of people who commit suicide do so under the mental disorder known as depression? When one is depressed it's a lot harder than you think to see any light through the tunnel, and without the right help being found for them they may never recover and take extreme measures such as suicide?

I'm not saying this is for everyone who does it, but unless you can feel what they feel before they do commit/attempt suicide you'll never understand what it's like. I am in no way excusing suicide as an option though, it must be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately those left behind often blame themselves due to the lack of reasoning behind the act.
I am not Ethan. I am Crowe. You are thinking of Crowquill, who is now sleepy jack. Why in the hell would I be addressing mental disorders in my answer to that question? It is understood that there are certain variables in any answer that I shouldn't have to address. Mental disorders are one of those variables. Why didn't you bring up agoraphobia or commitmentphobia (yes, this is a real term) when someone asked me about finding love? Why didn't you address narcissistic personality disorder, subjective moral relativity or any of the Cluster B personality disorders when it came to Big3's question?

Similarly, if someone asked me a question about my ethical and moral stance regarding farting in a crowded elevator, do you think that I would sit and talk about how "OK" it is for people to do this if they couldn't help it? Of course not, because it's UNDERSTOOD (or should be) that I don't have to address biological exceptions to every question asked to me. Depression is a biological exception.

Thank you for the lecture on depression. Good day.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:34 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I am not Ethan. I am Crowe. You are thinking of Crowquill, who is now sleepy jack. Why in the hell would I be addressing mental disorders in my answer to that question? It is understood that there are certain variables in any answer that I shouldn't have to address. Mental disorders are one of those variables. Why didn't you bring up agoraphobia or commitmentphobia (yes, this is a real term) when someone asked me about finding love? Why didn't you address narcissistic personality disorder, subjective moral relativity or any of the Cluster B personality disorders when it came to Big3's question?

Similarly, if someone asked me a question about my ethical and moral stance regarding farting in a crowded elevator, do you think that I would sit and talk about how "OK" it is for people to do this if they couldn't help it? Of course not, because it's UNDERSTOOD (or should be) that I don't have to address biological exceptions to every question asked to me. Depression is a biological exception.

Thank you for the lecture on depression. Good day.
My bad, the user names change all over the place and its hard to keep up.

You seriously need to chill out. And it is a huge factor. Finding love and farting in an elevator are in completely different relms to suicide. I liked your other 'doctor' answers but not this one.
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My bad, the user names change all over the place and its hard to keep up.

You seriously need to chill out. And it is a huge factor. Finding love and farting in an elevator are in completely different relms to suicide. I liked your other 'doctor' answers but not this one.
I have to apologize for sounding snappy, I'd had a less than ideal day. However, your response shows me that you still don't understand my point. If someone asks me a question where there are biological circumstances involved, then I'm going to answer the question as if that person is operating or expects to be operating under what can be considered "normal, or balanced" biological circumstances.

So, let's get back to suicide then so we don't confuse ourselves with other "realms". When asked a question about suicide, I answered as if the person I am speaking to is of sound physical and mental biological constitution. Why would I address someone who is clinically determined to be mentally sick? It is obvious that I cannot blame a person who is unable to distinguish the rationality of their choices. Unless there was a clause in the original question that would highlight such a case, I have no reason to go out of my way to accommodate every circumstance in which suicide might rear its ugly head, especially (and I repeat) if there are obvious and understandable occasions in which normal and balanced cognitive choices are not a factor.

IF THE QUESTION had been something along the lines of, "My sister has attempted suicide and she has been diagnosed as being mentally unstable with (X diagnosis), is she making good decisions?" -- then my answer would have been sensitive and apologetic to the fact that she had been declared as being mentally unsound.

The reason I got snappy is because whether or not you meant to do this, you spoke in a fashion which was condescending. You spoke to me like I had never heard of "depression". Next time, it might be more appropriate to make an addendum to my answer, or ask as a follow-up question about something that I did not address in my answer such as "In the case of suicide, Crowe, what about people who suffer from clinical depression?" or "Crowe did not address people who are clinically depressed... here is what happens to them..." -- a little tact can go a long way!

Again I apologize for biting your head off with that first answer.
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