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07-31-2009, 09:01 PM | #31 (permalink) | |
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I'm not saying this is for everyone who does it, but unless you can feel what they feel before they do commit/attempt suicide you'll never understand what it's like. I am in no way excusing suicide as an option though, it must be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately those left behind often blame themselves due to the lack of reasoning behind the act.
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08-01-2009, 12:00 AM | #34 (permalink) | |
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Similarly, if someone asked me a question about my ethical and moral stance regarding farting in a crowded elevator, do you think that I would sit and talk about how "OK" it is for people to do this if they couldn't help it? Of course not, because it's UNDERSTOOD (or should be) that I don't have to address biological exceptions to every question asked to me. Depression is a biological exception. Thank you for the lecture on depression. Good day. |
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08-01-2009, 03:34 AM | #36 (permalink) | |
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You seriously need to chill out. And it is a huge factor. Finding love and farting in an elevator are in completely different relms to suicide. I liked your other 'doctor' answers but not this one.
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08-01-2009, 02:03 PM | #37 (permalink) | |
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So, let's get back to suicide then so we don't confuse ourselves with other "realms". When asked a question about suicide, I answered as if the person I am speaking to is of sound physical and mental biological constitution. Why would I address someone who is clinically determined to be mentally sick? It is obvious that I cannot blame a person who is unable to distinguish the rationality of their choices. Unless there was a clause in the original question that would highlight such a case, I have no reason to go out of my way to accommodate every circumstance in which suicide might rear its ugly head, especially (and I repeat) if there are obvious and understandable occasions in which normal and balanced cognitive choices are not a factor. IF THE QUESTION had been something along the lines of, "My sister has attempted suicide and she has been diagnosed as being mentally unstable with (X diagnosis), is she making good decisions?" -- then my answer would have been sensitive and apologetic to the fact that she had been declared as being mentally unsound. The reason I got snappy is because whether or not you meant to do this, you spoke in a fashion which was condescending. You spoke to me like I had never heard of "depression". Next time, it might be more appropriate to make an addendum to my answer, or ask as a follow-up question about something that I did not address in my answer such as "In the case of suicide, Crowe, what about people who suffer from clinical depression?" or "Crowe did not address people who are clinically depressed... here is what happens to them..." -- a little tact can go a long way! Again I apologize for biting your head off with that first answer. |
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