Girls, I Need Your Help

cavanherk · 07-17-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fal

Emerald cuts are nice but if there are any sizeable inclusions in the stone they'll stick out like a sore thumb. Round brilliants and other cuts with more complicated shapes hide them well because it makes every facet of the stone catch and refract the light, emerald cut you need to sink your money into a very good quality stone for it to pay off.

Makes perfect sense...and I have to admit I'm hiding the 10x-magnification-required-inclusions..SI-1...can't be seen by the naked eye, which is really all that matters for a typical human...going pretty much all out on the rest though...

VEGANGELICA · 07-17-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavanherk

If it helps at all, she is a T-shirt and jeans kind of girl, but she cleans up goooooood. HA! She loves the outdoors, loves Jack Johnson adores her horses more than she adores me...almost.

I need your anonymous assistance because I can't ask any of her friends or my female friends because this has to be a successful surprise...

THANKS!!!

Hi, Cavanherk,
I agree that the ring on the right (platinum) is nicest because of its simplicity and as for the diamond, I recommend you ensure it is conflict-free. You can go to a website such as The Conflict-Free Diamond Council to learn more about ensuring gemstones are not from areas of the world where people suffer due to their acquisition, and your jeweler should be able to provide evidence that the diamond did not result from illegal activities, usually involving atrocities in developing nations.

Also, I agree with those who say a twisty tie or some other non-wealth gift is, ultimately, just as meaningful as long as it truly symbolizes the promises people make in marriage (such as to work on the relationship even when it happens that you no longer feel in love with the partner).

However, since the U.S. society continues to perpetuate a modern version of the dowry system with males often giving females some gift to show they are of value to them, then maybe young women still expect engagement rings and feel disappointed if they don't get them? Even I, before I got married, looked at engagement rings...then walked out of the store when the snippy salesman said he didn't know (or appear to care) where the diamonds came from. I suppose I'm rather cynical about the whole ring business, since jewelers advertise diamonds ruthlessly, trying to get everyone to think they symbolize love, and their advertising works: they get your bucket-load of money, and you get...a tiny shiny object.

Still, from what I've heard, a lot of ring recipients really appreciate the time that goes into its selection and *especially* into its surprise presentation because giving someone your time and attention is ultimately the truly priceless gift. For example, if you wrote one of your lovely beach-sounding songs as an engagement song, you could say to her nonchalantly, "Oh, hey, I'd like to sing you a new song I wrote,"...and then as she hears it she'll start to realize it is leading up to a proposal of marriage...and then she'll get excited, and be moved, and start to laugh and cry at the same time, and it will be a lovely moment of many you'll get to enjoy for the rest of your lives!!!!! Oh. Oops! You only wanted ring advice. Sorry!

--Erica

cavanherk · 07-17-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Hi, Cavanherk,
I agree that the ring on the right (platinum) is nicest because of its simplicity and as for the diamond, I recommend you ensure it is conflict-free. You can go to a website such as The Conflict-Free Diamond Council to learn more about ensuring gemstones are not from areas of the world where people suffer due to their acquisition, and your jeweler should be able to provide evidence that the diamond did not result from illegal activities, usually involving atrocities in developing nations.

Also, I agree with those who say a twisty tie or some other non-wealth gift is, ultimately, just as meaningful as long as it truly symbolizes the promises people make in marriage (such as to work on the relationship even when it happens that you no longer feel in love with the partner).

However, since the U.S. society continues to perpetuate a modern version of the dowry system with males often giving females some gift to show they are of value to them, then maybe young women still expect engagement rings and feel disappointed if they don't get them? Even I, before I got married, looked at engagement rings...then walked out of the store when the snippy salesman said he didn't know (or appear to care) where the diamonds came from. I suppose I'm rather cynical about the whole ring business, since jewelers advertise diamonds ruthlessly, trying to get everyone to think they symbolize love, and their advertising works: they get your bucket-load of money, and you get...a tiny shiny object.

Still, from what I've heard, a lot of ring recipients really appreciate the time that goes into its selection and *especially* into its surprise presentation because giving someone your time and attention is ultimately the truly priceless gift.

For example, if you wrote one of your lovely beach-sounding songs as an engagement song, you could say to her nonchalantly, "Oh, hey, I'd like to sing you a new song I wrote,"...and then as she hears it she'll start to realize it is leading up to a proposal of marriage...and then she'll get excited, and be moved, and start to laugh and cry at the same time, and it will be a lovely moment of many you'll get to enjoy for the rest of your lives!!! Oh. Oops! You only wanted ring advice. Sorry!

--Erica

lol yeah I like your ideas, and that's where my head has been going recently, too. Supposedly all diamonds coming into the U.S. meet Kimberly "non-conflict" diamond standards, but Kimberly is also supposedly being enforced in most other developed nations, so it seems unlikely they enforce much of anything, because blood diamonds are still being easily sold for the same arms-affording prices and going SOMEWHERE...so I wonder where they end up? Hmmm....

Anyhow, now I'm looking at this one:

It's pretty much perfect except for the fact that it's not platinum, so I'm working on the details with the dealer. But it's a raw diamond, basically, in a hand-pounded ring and mount. It's perfect...bread-bag tie symbolic with cusp-of-new-era representation.

I'm sure I'll be writing some kinda song for the whole thing too, that was pretty ironic that you mentioned it...or not...lol

*edit: Oh, and the diamonds come from Colorado!

VEGANGELICA · 07-17-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavanherk

It's pretty much perfect except for the fact that it's not platinum, so I'm working on the details with the dealer. But it's a raw diamond, basically, in a hand-pounded ring and mount. It's perfect...bread-bag tie symbolic with cusp-of-new-era representation.

*edit: Oh, and the diamonds come from Colorado!

Wow! Colorado! I didn't even know there were diamond mines there! Yes, I'd say this new ring would be perfect with its bread-bag tie symbolism and cusp-of-new-era representation, *especially* if you could get it in a heart-shape diamond to match your veins so she can wear your heart on *her* sleeve, too (cute story, btw!).

cavanherk · 07-17-2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Wow! Colorado! I didn't even know there were diamond mines there! Yes, I'd say this new ring would be perfect with its bread-bag tie symbolism and cusp-of-new-era representation, *especially* if you could get it in a heart-shape diamond to match your veins so she can wear your heart on *her* sleeve, too (cute story, btw!).

Yeah, but not so sure it's true...there was a mine there that was successful but expensive and it shut down--US Diamond Mines - Diamond Mining in the United States

So there might be diamonds out there from CO but how can that even be proven, you know?

Yeah I almost have to go with a heart...severely limits my options though...

savannah · 07-17-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodgirl81

last one... but if she is a laid back chick you may want to get an emerald cut.

or a cushion cut,...

if i have to choose from those three,...i'd go with the far right,.....however, really dude, you might want to rethink a heart shaped diamond

savannah · 07-17-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavanherk

lol yeah I like your ideas, and that's where my head has been going recently, too. Supposedly all diamonds coming into the U.S. meet Kimberly "non-conflict" diamond standards, but Kimberly is also supposedly being enforced in most other developed nations, so it seems unlikely they enforce much of anything, because blood diamonds are still being easily sold for the same arms-affording prices and going SOMEWHERE...so I wonder where they end up? Hmmm....

Anyhow, now I'm looking at this one:

It's pretty much perfect except for the fact that it's not platinum, so I'm working on the details with the dealer. But it's a raw diamond, basically, in a hand-pounded ring and mount. It's perfect...bread-bag tie symbolic with cusp-of-new-era representation.

I'm sure I'll be writing some kinda song for the whole thing too, that was pretty ironic that you mentioned it...or not...lol

*edit: Oh, and the diamonds come from Colorado!

ok,..i really really love this one,...like,...alot,....

cavanherk · 07-22-2009, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah

ok,..i really really love this one,...like,...alot,....

Yeah...now we're getting somewhere...it's either that one, or this one:

savannah · 07-22-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavanherk

Yeah...now we're getting somewhere...it's either that one, or this one:

square

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-23-2009, 09:29 PM

I actually prefer the round one, it's got a mystical 'LOTR' feel to it.

07-23-2009, 09:29 PM	#40 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	I actually prefer the round one, it's got a mystical 'LOTR' feel to it. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots