Why Satan loves you more than Jesus. (single, title, cover)

hookers with machineguns · 01-16-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

The why would I believe in something that isn't fact? Because once its fact, you no longer have belief but rather blind obediance. You believe cause you have to, not cause you want to. I believe because of personal experiances and because I want to. I trust in something. Don't criticize my trust. I'm merely telling you about my faith. Sorry if your offened. I'll stop if you guys want me too, but I'd think you'd want a differing opinion.

The thing I feel all religions have in common is faith. I never intended to criticize your faith, and by having it, you are not offending anyone. But to claim your beliefs as fact IS faith, just like how I feel my beliefs are fact. Everyone has their own idea of a "god" or higher being, whether they exist or not, it's a matter of perception. There is no fact to prove it's existance.

dirt mcgirt · 01-16-2005, 10:15 PM

yo, where do satan worhippers go when they die? wif dem bein like that theyd probly think hell was right bangin. hella confusin son.

MUSE girl · 01-17-2005, 11:48 AM

never fort of it like that, mybe there 'hell' is heaven?

hookers with machineguns · 01-17-2005, 11:58 AM

maybe there's two kinds of heavens. one for idiots, and another for even bigger idiots.

MUSE girl · 01-17-2005, 12:06 PM

ill be in the 'even bigger idiots'. that'll be me

sleepy jack · 01-17-2005, 10:22 PM

Dude hell heaven dont exist you die and lifes over thats it.

Waynegrow · 01-17-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirt mcgirt

yo, where do satan worhippers go when they die? wif dem bein like that theyd probly think hell was right bangin. hella confusin son.

Man i need a translator^^^.

sleepy jack · 01-17-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Waynegrow

Man i need a translator^^^.

Where do satan worhippers go when they die? what if them being like that(refreing to bad people sining or whatever) theyd probly think hell was awesome. confusing man.

Not that hard dude.

covle · 01-18-2005, 07:14 AM

i do not believe in religion perse`. if you were to ask me, god is dead. in the old testaments he appeared frequently. but as time progressed he is described as older and older and weaker physically, if thats possible for a god. then he stops altogether. his son is sent, and inevitably killed. religion for me is a rich story. and though it has it worths which i am not blind enough to miss, it is not agreeable to me.
i do not however believe that it is over with death. sure when at ym sceptical peak i can, but not when i think about it. every single civilisation prior to ours was based on some form of afterlife. and these civilisations in many ways were a lot more advanced. the ancient greeks and their political structures. the ancient mayans and their unbelievable calculations that could predict where a star would sit in the sky in hundreds of years. calculations that today would use over 5 fields of maths and science.
also throughout history there are many odd occurances. the same "gods" descirbed in the same ways by different peoples of different times and lands. staying with the mayan theme, Itzamna, a giant bird-like lizard standing 7ft tall opposed to blood sacrifices who "came from the stars" is depicted exactly the same way in a number of other civilisations. for example the aztecs.
there is a lot of unexplained happenings throughout history. different people fill them in various ways. religions often supply meaning and reason to such times.

hookers with machineguns · 01-18-2005, 09:24 AM

I took a philosophy class a few years ago and they taught us something very interesting: Basically, it isn't a bad idea to believe in "god", because if you are indeed rewarded for having faith, then might as well have it, because there is nothing you can lose from having faith. In other words, even if it turns out to be bull, you wouldn't have lost anything (maybe time and effort). I didn't necessarily agree with my professor, but I thought it was a very logical idea.

01-17-2005, 11:48 AM	#43 (permalink)
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01-17-2005, 11:58 AM	#44 (permalink)
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01-17-2005, 12:06 PM	#45 (permalink)
MUSE girl Eat my ****. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Merry old England, Forest Of Dean Posts: 104	ill be in the 'even bigger idiots'. that'll be me __________________ Just when you thourght things couldnt get much worse, just when you thourght things were going to get better...... it all returns with reinforcments.

01-18-2005, 07:14 AM	#49 (permalink)
covle Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 334	i do not believe in religion perse`. if you were to ask me, god is dead. in the old testaments he appeared frequently. but as time progressed he is described as older and older and weaker physically, if thats possible for a god. then he stops altogether. his son is sent, and inevitably killed. religion for me is a rich story. and though it has it worths which i am not blind enough to miss, it is not agreeable to me. i do not however believe that it is over with death. sure when at ym sceptical peak i can, but not when i think about it. every single civilisation prior to ours was based on some form of afterlife. and these civilisations in many ways were a lot more advanced. the ancient greeks and their political structures. the ancient mayans and their unbelievable calculations that could predict where a star would sit in the sky in hundreds of years. calculations that today would use over 5 fields of maths and science. also throughout history there are many odd occurances. the same "gods" descirbed in the same ways by different peoples of different times and lands. staying with the mayan theme, Itzamna, a giant bird-like lizard standing 7ft tall opposed to blood sacrifices who "came from the stars" is depicted exactly the same way in a number of other civilisations. for example the aztecs. there is a lot of unexplained happenings throughout history. different people fill them in various ways. religions often supply meaning and reason to such times. __________________ LIVE.LOVE.BURN.DIE. whoa...i quoted atreyu, that means im hardcore. look how hardcore i am!! thats hardcore...XXX

01-18-2005, 09:24 AM	#50 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	I took a philosophy class a few years ago and they taught us something very interesting: Basically, it isn't a bad idea to believe in "god", because if you are indeed rewarded for having faith, then might as well have it, because there is nothing you can lose from having faith. In other words, even if it turns out to be bull, you wouldn't have lost anything (maybe time and effort). I didn't necessarily agree with my professor, but I thought it was a very logical idea. __________________ LASTFM

01-16-2005, 10:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
dirt mcgirt lift ya skirt Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: brooklyn zoo, what? Posts: 194	yo, where do satan worhippers go when they die? wif dem bein like that theyd probly think hell was right bangin. hella confusin son.