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The Batlord 05-20-2020 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2119065)
ye there was no part of his arc where he "gets the girl" or gets hailed as a genius women now want as is the typical rock canon

Ah the real crux of the matter. The Beach Boys are too popular for you to like.

Frownland 05-20-2020 06:53 PM

But Kurt liked BW so he clearly appeals to the trvly tortured white boys of America too

WWWP 05-20-2020 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2119052)
I understand that BW is largely a dark sorrowful character but his soul isn’t ripped raw and hung on display like Daniel’s.

I'd argue otherwise. In terms of both songwriting and personal life.

They were both compromised while in the depths of mental illness that was exacerbated by drug use, but Daniel was never exploited by family or by the industry in the same way Brian was. And like, thank god, but Daniel's work was never stolen or compromised - again, at least not to the same extent, or with lasting repercussions. Daniel is sick, and his sickness made it so that he could never find contentment. Brian is sick, and his sickness was taken advantage of, and resulted in years of abuse and isolation.

Daniel Johnston will always be revered because he was a true Artist, and he suffered for it, and there's a huge sense of lost potential, and I think he knows that. I would say almost the same about Brian Wilson. He is called a genius, and will be remembered as such, but with a lot more baggage. Ultimately I feel more sorrowful about BW because at least DJs music is preserved in reverence. The current state of "The Beach Boys" is tragic. I think that's what tips the scales for me.

Anteater 05-20-2020 07:31 PM

Rundgren is pretty underrated IMO.

OccultHawk 05-20-2020 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2119108)
I'd argue otherwise. In terms of both songwriting and personal life.

They were both compromised while in the depths of mental illness that was exacerbated by drug use, but Daniel was never exploited by family or by the industry in the same way Brian was. And like, thank god, but Daniel's work was never stolen or compromised - again, at least not to the same extent, or with lasting repercussions. Daniel is sick, and his sickness made it so that he could never find contentment. Brian is sick, and his sickness was taken advantage of, and resulted in years of abuse and isolation.

Daniel Johnston will always be revered because he was a true Artist, and he suffered for it, and there's a huge sense of lost potential, and I think he knows that. I would say almost the same about Brian Wilson. He is called a genius, and will be remembered as such, but with a lot more baggage. Ultimately I feel more sorrowful about BW because at least DJs music is preserved in reverence. The current state of "The Beach Boys" is tragic. I think that's what tips the scales for me.

Damn fine retort

It makes me think of the YouTube clip of Miley Cyrus smoking salvia. She just wants to hangout but everyone around her wants to exploit her somehow.

This doesn’t directly apply to what you’re talking about BW being especially tortured but being that famous would be incredibly alienating.

Anteater 05-20-2020 08:34 PM

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rostasi 05-20-2020 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2119108)
I'd argue otherwise. In terms of both songwriting and personal life....

... and having Mike Love as your cousin has gotta be a brain beater.

OccultHawk 05-20-2020 09:07 PM



Listen for when this cop says “You had to be a ****ing American”

lol

WWWP 05-20-2020 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2119123)
... and having Mike Love as your cousin has gotta be a brain beater.

Ugh, seriously. Can't stand that guy. I should clarify that when I say BW was exploited by family I am certainly not referring to Carl or Dennis, the angels.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2119138)
probably just the production then

idk it's not that interesting why I don't like somethin'

just, Christ, there's no ulterior motive

You sparked a conversation, that doesn't make it about you. I promise you no one thinks you're that interesting.

WWWP 05-20-2020 10:10 PM

Ok. You're right. OH thinks you're interesting.

WWWP 05-21-2020 12:29 AM

https://i.imgur.com/MPkr2xK.jpg?1

Frownland 05-21-2020 12:31 AM

Have you heard this elph?


rostasi 05-21-2020 08:00 AM

Woman Who Took Hydroxychloroquine For 19 Years To Treat Lupus Still Got COVID-19.

OccultHawk 05-21-2020 08:19 AM

wtf is up with lupus lately?

OccultHawk 05-21-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2119151)
he's the only one that matters

Flarly

Plankton 05-21-2020 09:54 AM

You win! Check my profile!

The Batlord 05-21-2020 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2119160)

Repost.

WWWP 05-21-2020 11:00 AM

Was it? Oops. I was just excited to understand the sports reference.

The Batlord 05-21-2020 11:01 AM

Yeah I love that movie Angels in the Outfield.

WWWP 05-21-2020 11:02 AM

If you build it they will come

Plankton 05-21-2020 01:33 PM

My hair hasn't been this long since the 80's.

I do have clippers, but...

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...86&oe=5EED606B

...and if I keep it growing, this:

https://vintagerock.com/wp-content/u...erview_1-1.jpg

https://eyesonwindsor.com/wp-content...ravers-039.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4008/4...5b86cd53_b.jpg

...without the fan blowing.

The Batlord 05-21-2020 01:42 PM

Bro I feel you. They're not harping on people cutting their hair at the job right now and I'm toying with the idea of letting it ride until I'm full metal again. Long curly hair is a bitch to wash but man do I miss being "cool".

Plankton 05-21-2020 01:53 PM

My **** grows out, not down. Total white boy fro.

Frownland 05-21-2020 01:53 PM

I'm growing mine out as well. I'm in the substitute teacher range right now, wondering how long it'll take to get to the anthropology professor level.

Plankton 05-21-2020 01:56 PM

If I was going bald on top, I'd totally rock the Bozo doo.

The Batlord 05-21-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2119258)
My **** grows out, not down. Total white boy fro.

Mine's more halfway between Slash and Dave Mustaine. It's not quite a fro but until it gets long enough to hang down it looks pretty rough. Supposedly there's a Jew in the family so maybe that's it.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2119259)
I'm growing mine out as well. I'm in the substitute teacher range right now, wondering how long it'll take to get to the anthropology professor level.

Not down with the skullet, bro.

Frownland 05-21-2020 02:04 PM

Then don't grow one.

The Batlord 05-21-2020 02:16 PM

Righty-O, Devin.

Frownland 05-21-2020 02:20 PM

Trying that hard to be interesting and failing miserably every time sounds exhausting. Imma lean more Ben Franklin.

The Batlord 05-21-2020 02:23 PM

You do seem the type to trick someone into vacating their seat so you could steal it. That's a Ben Franklin story I seem to remember.

WWWP 05-21-2020 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2119252)
Bro I feel you. They're not harping on people cutting their hair at the job right now and I'm toying with the idea of letting it ride until I'm full metal again. Long curly hair is a bitch to wash but man do I miss being "cool".

:love: I bet it's glorious


Relevant tiktok

https://www.tiktok.com/@laucoo/video...89479585025285

Raime 05-21-2020 03:26 PM


The Batlord 05-21-2020 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2119281)
:love: I bet it's glorious


Relevant tiktok

https://www.tiktok.com/@laucoo/video...89479585025285

Like an 80s Mufasa.

rostasi 05-21-2020 06:42 PM

https://i.imgur.com/Mk9SY2A.jpg?2

rostasi 05-21-2020 07:13 PM

President Trump: "The company founded by a man named Henry Ford -- good bloodlines, good bloodlines."

... and you know that he knows what he’s saying!

rostasi 05-22-2020 08:12 AM

Michigan man wanted to steal helicopter, attack hospital to free coronavirus patients.

WWWP 05-22-2020 09:59 AM

I for one, love roman numerals.

rostasi 05-22-2020 10:07 AM

I for one, love ramen noodles.

rostasi 05-22-2020 10:34 AM

A-Ha performed on a washing machine.

rostasi 05-22-2020 11:13 AM

https://i.imgur.com/jlld5Br.jpg


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