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Chula Vista 07-15-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615312)
Edited: for more sense.

didn't work.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615312)
sperm and eggs?

I don't understand dark matter but you can use beginner physics to understand why the idea of it is reasonable. Something is there happening that consistently skews mathematical calculations that would normally work.

Edited: for more sense.

i understand the basic idea... which i explained in my original post. but all i'm saying is that **** sounds sketchy to me. you're relying on the assumption that your initial mathematical models are correct. the whole point of science is that the models are supposed to be born out in reality/the patterns we observe. and then when they don't seem correct.... ****in dark matter? nah man i don't trust that dark matter ****.

Tweak Gravity: What If There Is No Dark Matter? - Scientific American

and don't even get me started on the holocaust

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 05:43 PM

Interesting article thanks dude. I think both sides are reasonable tbh. Space is full of unknowns so why can't there be some unique space condition that requires separate or new calculations? Those calculations were accurate to the best of our observable knowledge prior to this dark matter issue. I get what your saying and think its cool they are looking into alternative explanations. Have you looked at the virial theorem? Its very simple.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 06:06 PM

i dunno that much about physics but my understanding is the calculations in question mostly regard "weighing" solar systems and other parts of the universe. which, when we became technically proficient enough to do so, the results didn't conform with the observable mass we can currently detect. so i don't even really know what you mean by "the calculations were accurate until the dark matter issue."

i'll grant that the general mathematical models of the universe seemed to produce accurate results when observing other phenomena. but then again newton's model seemed more or less flawless before einstein. and ptolemy's model of the solar system also worked fine until copernicus.

funny thing is though i don't honestly really have a stance against dark matter/dark energy i was being sort of facetious. could be true, the **** do i know about physics? my overall point was that we basically take these scientists at their word just cause they're like way smarter than us. and by we i mean you. which makes me wonder why you people don't just blindly accept everything i say like you should do

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615334)
and ptolemy's model of the solar system also worked fine until copernicus.

Dude, you never cease to amaze me. In good ways and bad ways.

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615334)
so i don't even really know what you mean by "the calculations were accurate until the dark matter issue."

i'll grant that the general mathematical models of the universe seemed to produce accurate results when observing other phenomena.

That's all that I meant.

grindy 07-16-2015 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615304)
dont even get me started on dark energy

oh the big bang happened and now ****s expanding and nothing can go faster than the speed of light... except we're expanding faster than the speed of light... thus... da da daaaaa

dark energy!

get your **** together, science

Nothing can move through space faster than light.
Space itself can do whatever the **** it wants to.

John Wilkes Booth 07-16-2015 12:42 AM

sounds like illuminati bull**** if you ask me.

DwnWthVwls 07-16-2015 07:28 AM

Star Trek already proved you wrong.

Plankton 07-16-2015 07:33 AM

What if you were traveling at the speed of light, and you shined a light in the direction you are heading?


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