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Old 08-31-2020, 10:13 AM   #26681 (permalink)
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Also, much of what has entered the public consciousness about ancient history is more directly related to ancient historical fiction that corroborates original sources rather than the origins themselves.
It’s strange to quote you twice but the original sources or primary sources are still often fictionalized and mythologized and blurred by presentist goggles.
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:31 AM   #26682 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2020, 12:45 PM   #26683 (permalink)
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What you guys said about Caligula is really interesting. Of course I'm aware that historical sources are unreliable, but basically everything I know about ancient Rome comes from my childhood obsession with it, so back then I didn't question anything and the ideas I picked up just stuck. I want to read up on it again now
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Old 08-31-2020, 04:11 PM   #26684 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2020, 04:13 PM   #26685 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2020, 04:15 PM   #26686 (permalink)
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He never actually did it and we don't know if he was serious - probably was a joke. Yeah, we haven't evolved much in 2000 years unfortunately.

The problem with historical accounts, when we go as far back as Caligula, is that the original sources are only a handful, and it's difficult to know how much of what you read was influenced by the biases of the historian.

I tend to think that many of the claims about Caligula are highly exaggerated and have been overblown throughout the years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Caligula that ordered the first large scale aqueducts project in Rome?
Don't know. I'm not much of a historian. Just a fan. I think one bit of potential circumstantial evidence is that both of Rome's most famous mad emperors who were assassinated, Caligula and Nero, were back to back. Sort of suggests they might have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time when the Senate was trying to reassert some control.
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Old 08-31-2020, 04:43 PM   #26689 (permalink)
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