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Old 06-03-2020, 09:45 AM   #25991 (permalink)
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Good way to get the crowd to turn on you for being an instigator or potential narc.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:14 AM   #25992 (permalink)
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Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.

Can't find this Tweet on his page so I guess he took it down. In another Tweet he cites the same source as your article, which claims that the items thrown at the police were friggin water bottles. Set your nightsticks on "whomp", boys.

https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1267830629548175363
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:29 AM   #25993 (permalink)
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I didn't see you complaining about the Hitler / Trump pic rostasi shared a few pages ago. Now there's a profound observation that nobody has ever made before.
Interesting to see how a Photoshopped simile has been raised to the level of a Homeric simile in your mind ... well, maybe it isn't interesting actually...

As for your Tim Carney tweet ref: Is that the same Tim Carney who, even as a columnist for the right-leaning Examiner wrote this opinion piece in today's paper where he explicitly states that the protesters were peaceful until the Secret Service goons moved in?

"The protest was peaceful. Some protesters angrily yelled across the fence barricade at the members of the Secret Service, who were arrayed in riot gear with armor, masks, billy clubs, and plastic shields. But mostly, the protesters were chanting and waving signs.

Then shortly after 6:15, the lines of Secret Service began marching forward, pushing the crowds back. Because the officers were often standing face-to-face with protesters, and because the advances by the officers went as far as 20 yards at a time, this inevitably involved police shoving otherwise peaceful protesters (sometimes before, sometimes after, a verbal demand to move).

This shoving sparked some retaliation. A group of young men who had clearly come to scuffle started hurling plastic water bottles and eggs at Secret Service near Vermont Avenue. The officers didn’t react to these projectiles, but they kept pushing forward..."


Then it's followed by a video that shows an ABC reporter being forced by police.
... then another video where cops fired teargas into the crowd ...

Another pull from the same opinion piece from Carney:

"Ordering force against peaceful protesters always has downsides. It physically endangers the protesters who are shoved or tear-gassed. It physically endangers the police who are thrust into altercations. It also has a moral cost. At the root of the tension behind the protests is a frayed relationship between law enforcement and the public. The attacks on peaceful protesters and journalists Monday night will make that worse..."

{sorry, it was yesterday's paper that the article was in - not today's}

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Old 06-03-2020, 10:30 AM   #25994 (permalink)
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Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.
You'll get your ass beat for being a dumbass is what'll happen and you'll deserve it
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:35 AM   #25995 (permalink)
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Yeah if you're gonna take on the police make sure you're holding something that spills their skittles.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:38 AM   #25996 (permalink)
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Anteater using a ****ty dishonest source to justify trying to fit as many cop ding dongs in his mouth as possible?

What a shock!
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:41 AM   #25997 (permalink)
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Hey man I'm sure they'll find all those metal pipes and baseball bats the protesters had stashed sooner or later. Right next to Saddam's nuclear weapons.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:45 AM   #25998 (permalink)
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Yeah if you're gonna take on the police make sure you're holding something that spills their skittles.
Or fries their bacon.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:48 AM   #25999 (permalink)
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Hey man I'm sure they'll find all those metal pipes and baseball bats the protesters had stashed sooner or later. Right next to Saddam's nuclear weapons.
That's why cops were breaking windows. It wasn't to frame the protesters it was to look for their weapon stashes.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:56 AM   #26000 (permalink)
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Interesting to see how a Photoshopped simile has been raised to the level of a Homeric simile in your mind ... well, maybe it isn't interesting actually...[/I]
Yep, you got me. There is nothing interesting about it.

I read through that article and don't really disagree with it. Trump created a problem by going to that church on a whim. The risk of him being killed if he goes out in public at all is high, and his Secret Service plus the police have no idea where it might come from. It's a lose-lose situation for him really - if he stays in his bunker, he gets mocked as weak. If he goes out and does anything, he's obviously a big tangerine target since it wouldn't be that hard to sneak a few guns or a bomb into a crowd.

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Anteater using a ****ty dishonest source to justify trying to fit as many cop ding dongs in his mouth as possible?

What a shock!
So are you mad about the definition of tear gas or that protesters actually were throwing **** before the cops did anything? My ding dong wants to know.

You know, it's very possible to disagree with how stories are worded and also agree that the situation was absurd and the police didn't make the best decision. That's my position on this particular incident.
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