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Old 06-03-2020, 08:02 AM   #25981 (permalink)
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Most of his supporters are already yappin a variation of "he makes the trains run on time." Trump is clearly Mussolini, not Hitler.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:29 AM   #25982 (permalink)
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Lol what would you do if a real conservative actually showed up on MB? Jump off a cliff? Eat your vegetables?
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:40 AM   #25983 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:42 AM   #25984 (permalink)
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Alright, I decided to waste my time and actually read this to give you the benefit of the doubt. The only source the writer cites is the police. The police say they didn't use tear gas. The police say the protesters were violent. The police say they had weapons stashes. The police didn't even know about Trump's photo op. What moron takes the word of the people who committed the act as compelling evidence that they must have acted ethically? What blithering idiot takes such a flying mental leap off of a cliff?
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:01 AM   #25985 (permalink)
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What moron takes the word of the people who committed the act as compelling evidence that they must have acted ethically? What blithering idiot takes such a flying mental leap off of a cliff?
A few things to consider. There are journalists who were there that attested that police officers were being pelted with objects, bottles, whatever before they did anything. And then you have other authorities there who say it wasn't tear gas. Then you have all of these media outlets who say it was tear gas, but can't provide evidence of it. What kind of moron gets mad for looking at the details of a story after-the-fact? Trump went out there to take a picture and even with all the video that was shot that gives us some insight into the events, nobody seems to have a clear chronology of exactly what happened and in what order.

As far as the ethics of it go, I guess it just comes down to whether or not you think officers are allowed to respond with any kind of force if they get pelted, assaulted, etc. You'd tell me that it's okay if someone kills a police officer if they were afraid because the police officer is in the wrong: they're a threat, right? But what about non-lethal force? If you attack a police officer for whatever reason, should they use a pepper ball to defend themselves?
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:06 AM   #25986 (permalink)
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Anteater straight up trying to justify the Boston Massacre over here.

Idk why anyone bothers getting through to Ant. It's over y'all, the body snatchers got him.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:11 AM   #25987 (permalink)
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A few things to consider. There are journalists who were there that attested that police officers were being pelted with objects, bottles, whatever before they did anything. And then you have other authorities there who say it wasn't tear gas. Then you have all of these media outlets who say it was tear gas, but can't provide evidence of it. What kind of moron gets mad for looking at the details of a story after-the-fact? Trump went out there to take a picture and even with all the video that was shot that gives us some insight into the events, nobody seems to have a clear chronology of exactly what happened and in what order.

As far as the ethics of it go, I guess it just comes down to whether or not you think officers are allowed to respond with any kind of force if they get pelted, assaulted, etc. You'd tell me that it's okay if someone kills a police officer if they were afraid because the police officer is in the wrong: they're a threat, right? But what about non-lethal force? If you attack a police officer for whatever reason, should they use a pepper ball to defend themselves?
The "other authorities" are the police. That is not a reliable source when they are the ones under scrutiny. There are no other sources cited in that article. None. How dumb do you have to be?
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Anteater straight up trying to justify the Boston Massacre over here.

Idk why anyone bothers getting through to someone. It's over y'all, the body snatchers got him.
You don't have an argument or an actual endgame of any kind that's gonna work for people when all the dust settles. Telling me "we'll figure it out as we go along" isn't compelling.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:14 AM   #25989 (permalink)
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You don't have an argument or an actual endgame of any kind that's gonna work for people when all the dust settles. Telling me "we'll figure it out as we go along" isn't compelling.
Good point, that definitely makes violent responses to protests justified.
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Good point, that definitely makes violent responses to protests justified.
Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.

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