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Frownland 06-02-2020 10:10 PM

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretext

Anteater 06-02-2020 10:44 PM

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OccultHawk 06-03-2020 01:29 AM

Destroying property isn’t violent. Buildings don’t have feelings.

Lucem Ferre 06-03-2020 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2121268)
Nah, you don't get it. Every news site is biased. The point is whether or not it cites sources and provides context for the story. Which in the case of that story they do so multiple times.

If it takes a site like The Federalist to call all the big boys in the media on their ****, then so be it. If bigger media outlets with bigger audiences are going to say something was tear gas when it wasn't, then you should appreciate that someone even bothered to examine the story in greater detail.

Don't pretend like you do some profound research to check the validity of your sources less we pull up the receipts to your anti-vaxxer's covid conspiracy crock with the only defense being "when YouTube restricts something I pay attention."

You love focussing on the semantics of one detail to pretend it dismantled the whole point.

Anteater 06-03-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2121294)
Don't pretend like you do some profound research to check the validity of your sources less we pull up the receipts to your anti-vaxxer's covid conspiracy crock with the only defense being "when YouTube restricts something I pay attention."

You love focussing on the semantics of one detail to pretend it dismantled the whole point.

I didn't see you complaining about the Hitler / Trump pic rostasi shared a few pages ago. Now there's a profound observation that nobody has ever made before.

Frownland 06-03-2020 07:02 AM

Most of his supporters are already yappin a variation of "he makes the trains run on time." Trump is clearly Mussolini, not Hitler.

Anteater 06-03-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2121313)
every music forum I've ever been on has exactly one vocal conservative at any given time

and without him nobody argues

Lol what would you do if a real conservative actually showed up on MB? Jump off a cliff? Eat your vegetables?

Frownland 06-03-2020 07:40 AM


The Batlord 06-03-2020 07:42 AM

Alright, I decided to waste my time and actually read this to give you the benefit of the doubt. The only source the writer cites is the police. The police say they didn't use tear gas. The police say the protesters were violent. The police say they had weapons stashes. The police didn't even know about Trump's photo op. What moron takes the word of the people who committed the act as compelling evidence that they must have acted ethically? What blithering idiot takes such a flying mental leap off of a cliff?

Anteater 06-03-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2121317)
What moron takes the word of the people who committed the act as compelling evidence that they must have acted ethically? What blithering idiot takes such a flying mental leap off of a cliff?

A few things to consider. There are journalists who were there that attested that police officers were being pelted with objects, bottles, whatever before they did anything. And then you have other authorities there who say it wasn't tear gas. Then you have all of these media outlets who say it was tear gas, but can't provide evidence of it. What kind of moron gets mad for looking at the details of a story after-the-fact? Trump went out there to take a picture and even with all the video that was shot that gives us some insight into the events, nobody seems to have a clear chronology of exactly what happened and in what order.

As far as the ethics of it go, I guess it just comes down to whether or not you think officers are allowed to respond with any kind of force if they get pelted, assaulted, etc. You'd tell me that it's okay if someone kills a police officer if they were afraid because the police officer is in the wrong: they're a threat, right? But what about non-lethal force? If you attack a police officer for whatever reason, should they use a pepper ball to defend themselves?


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