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jwb 08-21-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2073800)
the idea that human behavior can all be attributed to natural selection in our tribal days is reductionist and no longer unchallenged since the 20th century

the more universal* something is in our species the more likely it has been influenced by our evolution. Especially when there's a clear pragmatic role for it to play.

* By universal I mean that all human societies have morality, not that all morality is the same.

Lucem Ferre 08-21-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2073801)
what serves society first and foremost is having a common moral framework by which you can regulate the members of said society

Society A and society B might have different specific morals, but the purpose those morals serve are much more identical.

E.g. I remember a study from years back about how they determined that certain neural activity resembled someone pondering a moral question vs a strictly logical question.

And they asked a group of people about stoning a woman for adultery, some of whom were Western and some of whom were middle Eastern. The people answered the question predictably, of course. The striking thing was that in both the Western and middle Eastern patients, the same neural patterns manifested. The Westerners were disgusted at the murder a woman, the middle easterners week disgusted at her betrayal of her husband. Both were following the same instincts, though informed by different cultures so they came to very different conclusions.

Can you link it or find it?

Edit: I found this interesting article though. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/mi...ality-iacoboni

jwb 08-21-2019 05:35 PM

I'm trying to but having a hard time finding it. It was years ago I read this particular piece.

Lucem Ferre 08-21-2019 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2073805)
I'm trying to but having a hard time finding it. It was years ago I read this particular piece.

I hate it when that happens.

jwb 08-22-2019 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2073810)
I'm not dosagreeing that the capacity for forming morality is inherent, but the rules will vary culture to culture

in this way it is like language

but that still means that both language and morality have a biological basis and purpose

I was never saying that we are evolved for a specific set of moral rules any more then we are evolved to speak a specific language. The adaptability of these tools is part of what makes them functional.

Plankton 08-23-2019 08:27 AM

Don't tell me what to do... lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7NGPD9ViE

jwb 08-24-2019 10:17 AM

About time.

Frownland 08-24-2019 03:24 PM

https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...47&oe=5DCEE941

Frownland 08-24-2019 09:37 PM

Funny Games is just the gritty reboot of Cat in the Hat.

The Batlord 08-24-2019 09:42 PM

Oh damn speaking of Funny Games the english version was lit so is there something to be gained from watching the original or am I just watching the same thing in a different language?


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