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Frownland 10-18-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1885520)
After that point we were basically just arguing different premises.

Here I was admitting that I misinterpreted your posts.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1885523)
or i was clarifying what i meant?

Here you were trying to argue against my misinterpretation that I just pointed out by essentially repeating yourself.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-18-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1885560)
Here I was admitting that I misinterpreted your posts.



Here you were trying to argue against my misinterpretation that I just pointed out by essentially repeating yourself.

i’m like 80% sure you used your mod powers to edit that from saying “you” to “we”

but anyway, i wanted you to say “I was wrong, i misinterpreted it” rather than you to try to pin it 50/50. don’t even trip dawg.

Frownland 10-18-2017 09:49 PM

It was 75Qwertyy/25Frown. You've been arguing with me over whether or not I'm arguing with you for five pages now. Get some sleep.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-18-2017 09:50 PM

keep on moving the goal posts by dude, just hold onto the L

Frownland 10-18-2017 09:52 PM

Now you ain't even tryna cohere

The Batlord 10-18-2017 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1885550)
i don't know how to fix the situation. i don't think any of us really do. socialism reform is a concept but i think history has proven (elph, chill) that socialism isn't a long lasting solution. what do you think?

Do I think that Elph level socialism works? I'd like to think so even if I don't. In my heart of hearts I'm a social anarchist probably, but in practice I'm a social democrat I suppose. Europe has proved that a middle ground between capitalism and socialism works, and even America has proven the same even if America wants to pretend otherwise.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-18-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885566)
Do I think that Elph level socialism works? I'd like to think so even if I don't. In my heart of hearts I'm a social anarchist probably, but in practice I'm a social democrat I suppose. Europe has proved that a middle ground between capitalism and socialism works, and even America has proven the same even if America wants to pretend otherwise.

middle ground is definitely the most sensible, the issue is everybody likes to see it as extreme im the current political climate in north america. it’s all about how socialists are communists and republicans are fascists and everyone is so set in their ways that they fail to acknowledge there’s actually common ground that i’m sure most of us can agree on.

it’s about moderation and being sensible. money is a great motivator but the harder it is to get it the harder it becomes to be motivated.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1885570)
middle ground is definitely the most sensible, the issue is everybody likes to see it as extreme im the current political climate in north america. it’s all about how socialists are communists and republicans are fascists and everyone is so set in their ways that they fail to acknowledge there’s actually common ground that i’m sure most of us can agree on.

it’s about moderation and being sensible. money is a great motivator but the harder it is to get it the harder it becomes to be motivated.

So you don't even believe in your own rhetoric basically. You're exactly where most of us are but you still cling to libertarian goofiness.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-18-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885573)
So you don't even believe in your own rhetoric basically. You're exactly where most of us are but you still cling to libertarian goofiness.

on page 1537 i directly told you i wasn’t a liberterian. a few years back i was desperately searching for a political affiliation and their beliefs seemed more than reasonable for the most part to a 17 year old me. as time went on i later realized it was arguebly the least practical system of all-time and most liberterians are neckbeard losers angry over their life in middle class suburbia (ironically this is v similar to most modern commies.) at this point in my life i can’t really say i have a straight up political affiliation. i guess i’m a liberal, but being a liberal in 2017 means you hate religion, think there are an unlimited amount of genders, want children to be able to get life altering sex changes, and run around punching conservatives because they have different views than you.

identity politics are ****ing dumb and i’m not about to confine myself to one set belief just so i can be a part of a club. i’m not an expert in politcs but it doesn’t take much to realize there’s no end all side with the answers to every problem and reality is the balance of left and right are crucial in a functional society.

Frownland 10-18-2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1885581)
most liberterians are neckbeard losers angry over their life in middle class suburbia (ironically this is v similar to most modern commies.)

"The passions run high because the stakes are so low."
-Ken Burns


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