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Seltzer 05-07-2009 10:23 PM

What languages can you speak?
 
Despite choosing the 'maths' route and studying software engineering, language has always been a big passion of mine. In fact, I didn't take any computing subjects at high school. Instead I took French and Latin and competed in French speaking contests.

Sadly I haven't had much time to pursue lingual interests since high school, though I did start learning Russian last year. In order to refresh my French, I've been reading some novels and trying to understand the French version of the Office. I regret not taking any Chinese papers at uni and I envy those born into an environment where multilingualism is a requirement. For me, reading/writing/speaking come fairly easily but I struggle with listening.

So this thread is for the discussion of language (both native and foreign) whether you are bilingual/trilingual by upbringing/compulsion, have studied a foreign language at school and liked/disliked it, are learning a new language for travel/business/pleasure, are studying linguistics or are simply fascinated by language in general.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 05-07-2009 10:25 PM

mostly fluent in french, used to know basic spanish but i forgot it

the idea of being completely fluent/billingual, and learning more languages appeals very much to me... gonna keep taking french in college. i'd like to learn to understand/speak mandarin but the idea of learning the alphabet turns me off completely

lucifer_sam 05-07-2009 10:27 PM

i took about eight years of German but i'm not entirely confident in my ability to speak it. i can listen, read and understand it though, that's a plus.

333 05-07-2009 11:57 PM

My first language was Vietnamese. Second: English. Sadly, my English is better than my Vietnamese. Also, I've been studying Spanish for about four years. I love learning new languages. It is especially interesting to compare and contrast different languages and dialects. I really believe if multilingualism became more popular, we could begin on a completely new level of understanding each other.

lucifer s.: are you in an environment that permits you to practice German?

Janszoon 05-08-2009 12:05 AM

English and an embarrassingly small amount of Spanish for a person with a Spanish-speaking parent. That's it. :(

333 05-08-2009 12:09 AM

^ It's never too late. I heard after your third or so language, it's really not that bad. Right now, I feel like the more I learn of one language, the more I lose from the others. It could be a mental thing.

lucifer_sam 05-08-2009 12:10 AM

i go to a school that offers German classes if that's what you're asking.

my engineering advisor suggested i take it more seriously, take classes and whatnot but i don't think i have time in my schedule to pursue it more actively. there's still a few years for me to decide whether i want to take a semester abroad, it would certainly be neat to explore a country whose primary language wasn't English.

333 05-08-2009 12:19 AM

Hm, I guess what I'm really asking is do you practice orally outside the classroom? I found that when I did this a lot, I really got a feel for the foreign ways you move your tongue while learning a new language.

yes, I agree. getting to a country that is not dominantly english-speaking is pretty amazing. it forces you to connect with the natives differently. i love it. when I was ten or so, my parents sent me to Vietnam for two or three weeks. even though I was quite fluent in vietnamese already, I still struggled to communicate for the first week. i am a strong believer in familiarizing yourself with the culture along with the language, so those few weeks are crucial in how i speak now.

Janszoon 05-08-2009 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 654954)
^ It's never too late. I heard after your third or so language, it's really not that bad. Right now, I feel like the more I learn of one language, the more I lose from the others. It could be a mental thing.

I agree that's it's never too late. At the end of last year I was really making an effort to learn more, listening to language CDs and going to meet-ups but I kind of fell off. I'm hoping to get back on the ball with it once I get back to the east coast.

lucifer_sam 05-08-2009 12:50 AM

i hear there's way more Spanish speaking people in Massachusetts than southern California.

Janszoon 05-08-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 654972)
i hear there's way more Spanish speaking people in Massachusetts than southern California.

Haha. I actually live in Northern California and am moving to Philly, but there are way less spanish-speakers in Philly than Boston so your point is even more true than you realize.

Seltzer 05-08-2009 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 654915)
the idea of being completely fluent/billingual, and learning more languages appeals very much to me... gonna keep taking french in college. i'd like to learn to understand/speak mandarin but the idea of learning the alphabet turns me off completely

Learning Mandarin would be a massive commitment. One that I feel I could have made if I'd started a few years ago, but now probably couldn't make.

And yeah, there is the possibility of learning it on a spoken level rather than written which is much more feasible and still useful.


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Originally Posted by 333 (Post 654962)
Hm, I guess what I'm really asking is do you practice orally outside the classroom? I found that when I did this a lot, I really got a feel for the foreign ways you move your tongue while learning a new language.

I think that practice is necessary for listening skills. My high school Latin teacher who majored in French told me that he went to France and could only really converse properly with the locals after about a week of being there.

I don't think I've forgotten much French vocab since high school, but my listening skills have deteriorated... I can't be the only one who finds listening hard. Mind you, French isn't particularly phonetic and the speed/enunciation/elision can make it difficult to understand.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 05-08-2009 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer
Learning Mandarin would be a massive commitment. One that I feel I could have made if I'd started a few years ago, but now probably couldn't make.

And yeah, there is the possibility of learning it on a spoken level rather than written which is much more feasible and still useful.

its more or less because the city i live in has the highest visible minority population in canada... 59%, most of whom are from china, hong kong or taiwan. mandarin & cantonese are practically spoken just as widely as english here. maybe not cantonese as much, but still a huge amount of the population speaks at least one of them.

sidewinder 05-08-2009 11:48 AM

English is my second language. I was born and grew up in Belgium (till 9 y/o) and unfortunately don't practice the French nearly enough. It's quite embarrassing when speaking with relatives. :( I took a continued education course last summer and it helped a little, but not enough. What I need to do is join a group of French speakers in town and get together a few times a month to socialize. That would really help mature my vocabulary too. Part of why I'm embarrassed to speak it now is because my education in the language only went to age 9. Sure I've spoken French on a somewhat regular basis with immediate family in the past 24 years, but not enough to really improve. Barely maintain is more like it.

I wish procrastination would let go of it's choke hold on me.

Antonio 05-08-2009 12:29 PM

well my family's from the Dominican Republic, so Spanish

Janszoon 05-08-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 655182)
English is my second language. I was born and grew up in Belgium (till 9 y/o) and unfortunately don't practice the French nearly enough. It's quite embarrassing when speaking with relatives. :( I took a continued education course last summer and it helped a little, but not enough. What I need to do is join a group of French speakers in town and get together a few times a month to socialize. That would really help mature my vocabulary too. Part of why I'm embarrassed to speak it now is because my education in the language only went to age 9. Sure I've spoken French on a somewhat regular basis with immediate family in the past 24 years, but not enough to really improve. Barely maintain is more like it.

I wish procrastination would let go of it's choke hold on me.

You can probably find some good french groups in your area on meetup.com. That's where I found my spanish group.

Bulldog 05-08-2009 01:11 PM

I studied German for a about a year, and was fine right up until they asked me to do some exams. I can speak it a little, and could probably make it through a day in Germany without having to spend money on a phrasebook, but I wouldn't exactly call myself fluent at it.

Trauma 05-08-2009 07:37 PM

English and a little French.
Just enough to talk to and understand salespeople in Montreal.

TumorAttitude 05-08-2009 11:06 PM

Un pequito espaniol'.
(No idea about spanish punctuation......)

boo boo 05-09-2009 12:11 AM

I know sign language, jive, redneck and I can speak a little bit of Jon Anderson.

SATCHMO 05-09-2009 12:44 AM

That would come in handy if some deaf klansmen started trouble at a Yes show in Harlem

boo boo 05-09-2009 12:45 AM

Lol.

Adonai 05-09-2009 01:06 AM

Not really much. Russian, Latvian, English, German and a little bit of Korean.

TheBig3 05-09-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 654952)
English and an embarrassingly small amount of Spanish for a person with a Spanish-speaking parent. That's it. :(

dude, you're spanish too, I didn't know that ****. Are you sure we're not related?

sidewinder 05-09-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 655182)
English is my second language. I was born and grew up in Belgium (till 9 y/o) and unfortunately don't practice the French nearly enough. It's quite embarrassing when speaking with relatives. :( I took a continued education course last summer and it helped a little, but not enough. What I need to do is join a group of French speakers in town and get together a few times a month to socialize. That would really help mature my vocabulary too. Part of why I'm embarrassed to speak it now is because my education in the language only went to age 9. Sure I've spoken French on a somewhat regular basis with immediate family in the past 24 years, but not enough to really improve. Barely maintain is more like it.

I wish procrastination would let go of it's choke hold on me.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 655236)
You can probably find some good french groups in your area on meetup.com. That's where I found my spanish group.

Indeed...that's where I found out about several groups when I first moved to this town a couple of years ago. I went to one French meetup and found it helpful, but it was a bit of a distance from me, and it was winter/dreary so I wasn't motivated to go back. I kept hoping for another one closer to me but never went. Times weren't that convenient either. Excuses excuses...

Janszoon 05-09-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 655695)
dude, you're spanish too, I didn't know that ****. Are you sure we're not related?

Haha, you're spanish too? We're a rare breed on the south shore! I don't think anybody besides me in my high school graduating class was spanish. :beer:

Seltzer 05-13-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Adonai (Post 655604)
Not really much. Russian, Latvian, English, German and a little bit of Korean.

Jealous!

My old French correspondence teacher was from Latvia. Sounds like a fascinating little country.

NSW 05-13-2009 07:14 AM

I speaka da English...but I took Spanish in high school for three years (but only because I failed the second year). Incidentally, I also failed English my senior year by my teacher passed me anyway. Guess languages just aren't my thing. :) I would love to learn Japanese though. I bought a Japanese language tudor for my Nintendo DS but haven't had a chance to really get into it yet.

adidasss 05-13-2009 07:34 AM

Um, I think I'm pretty much bilingual. I do most of my conversing in "Cronglish" and I'd say I'm equally good (or bad) in both. I took Italian lessons for like 3 semesters but gave it up for some reason. I can't really speak it but I understand a bit. Not enough to use it when we go shopping in Italy...:laughing: Oddly enough I think my Spanish is better, maybe because I've been exposed to it much longer and more frequently (each day we have like 3 hours in the afternoon of non-stop mexican telenovelas). I'm interested in learning more languages (I've downloaded Rosetta Stone in an attempt to learn French but aren't disciplined enough to use it every day) and improving my Italian and Spanish to the point I can actually use them...Lord knows I get plenty of chances to use Italian...:\

TheBig3 05-13-2009 08:10 AM

Mexican telenovellas? You're on the continent, why did you come across the pond for them?

pahuuuta 05-13-2009 08:28 AM

i can speak some spanish, oh and english. lol

Meph1986 05-13-2009 09:37 AM

English and Spanish

zeppy111 05-13-2009 10:22 AM

English, Afrikaans and Xhosa

coryallen2 05-13-2009 11:02 AM

^ what the hell is Xhosa? And Afrikaans is African?

LoathsomePete 05-13-2009 11:05 AM

My dad attempted to teach me Welsh but we had to keep on taking breaks so I could wash off all the spit, it is truly an ugly language.

Janszoon 05-13-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 658141)
^ what the hell is Xhosa? And Afrikaans is African?

Good grief.

zeppy111 05-13-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 658141)
^ what the hell is Xhosa? And Afrikaans is African?

Xhosa is a local, so called "black language" ... No, I am not black, I come from rural areas and the farming community so that explains how I know Xhosa.

Afrikaans is the language that derives from the dutch settlers... Very similair to dutch and to a lesser extent German.

FaSho 05-13-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 658141)
^ what the hell is Xhosa? And Afrikaans is African?

This is to date one of the most ignorant posts I have ever read on this site.

Janszoon 05-13-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 658377)
This is to date one of the most ignorant posts I have ever read on this site.

It's definitely up there.

TheBig3 05-13-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 655820)
Haha, you're spanish too? We're a rare breed on the south shore! I don't think anybody besides me in my high school graduating class was spanish. :beer:

There aren't, and because there aren't everyone assumed I was super spanish.

I'd get all of my military paraphernalia in Spanish. I ended up not joining the military because all of their good points were in comprehendible.

There were two kids in my school with my last name, and he was ESL and his parents didn't speak English.

to this day I get the "you're Spanish?!?!?!?!" comment from dip****s who think we're all deep brown and dance to mariachi.


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