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Old 04-19-2012, 10:38 AM   #1951 (permalink)
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The wikipedia article was meant to show you that genes that cause diseases do exist. The information there has the benefit of not coming from the minds and opinion of one person, but of many people who have studied and observed. In case you didn't know, real science is not the claims and opinions of any one person.

I also guess from your reply that you don't really have much to offer as a retort other than sarcasm.
I really have no interest in arguing with you. I am confident in my knowledge, which you have condescendingly mocked and interpreted as misguided despite my rather solid defense. I just find it laughable that you find it necessary to lecture anyone who's opinion is different than yours on the nature of science when you don't take others information and research into account.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #1952 (permalink)
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I really have no interest in arguing with you. I am confident in my knowledge, which you have condescendingly mocked and interpreted as misguided despite my rather solid defense. I just find it laughable that you find it necessary to lecture anyone who's opinion is different than yours on the nature of science when you don't take others information and research into account.
Alright, next time I feel like you're trying to make a mockery of my profession I'll just smile and be nice about it.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:50 AM   #1953 (permalink)
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Alright, next time I feel like you're trying to make a mockery of my profession I'll just smile and be nice about it.
That's sounds like a good idea. I know I can't help but smile every time I think of how your vast intellect and unquestionable opinion on science has you playing with insects all day
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:51 AM   #1954 (permalink)
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i find the both of you to be too smug in either direction

isn't there some sort of midway point you can both agree upon

instead of one side being optimistic based on one end of the argument, and the other being dead sure that the genome project is a dead end

i don't think with the wealth of different theories and opinions on the whole thing, a consensus can be reached that we just dunno enough yet to be making such sweeping statements
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:05 AM   #1955 (permalink)
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i find the both of you to be too smug in either direction

isn't there some sort of midway point you can both agree upon
Sure, if new knowledge is locked inside a vault and never used for anything, then it's not helping anyone except perhaps giving some work to whoever it was who figured stuff out.

Is that an alright middle way?

The worth of available knowledge is essentially incalculable because you don't know what that knowledge will be used for tomorrow. Knowing the human genome may help along the medicine that cures cancer or restores damaged brain tissue. You can now get potatoes that are cold hardy because they express a gene that was found in arctic cod. Every time you discover a new genes, whether it's in a plant or insect or whatever, that could be tremendously useful. Something which turns out to be useful today could still be useful a million years into the future.

You fantasized about portals in space or something. We don't magically just get there. We have to know an awful lot of stuff before we can get there and figuring stuff out about background radiation may just be stepping stones leading to that point in the future when we'll be popping through wormholes. The point being that even knowledge that at present is not used for anything practical may be in the future.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #1956 (permalink)
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Weird anti-science rage isn't a funny picture, people. Let's get this thread back on track.

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Old 04-19-2012, 03:22 PM   #1957 (permalink)
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I get a lot of those pictures on my tumblr feed.



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Old 04-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #1958 (permalink)
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:22 PM   #1959 (permalink)
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Apparently I never understood what "bollocks" meant.
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Apparently I never understood what "bollocks" meant.
What did you think it was?
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