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PinkCigarette 03-20-2009 08:00 PM

I don't understand how you think classic rock music has no emotion. Pretty much every song has emotion.

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 08:00 PM

I don't dislike the classic rock bands because they are old.

I simply don't enjoy their music!

I'll admit that it is more creative than the stuff I listen to, but it just doesn't appeal to what my brain enjoys listening to!

ProggyMan 03-20-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618559)
new riffs > old riffs

that's why i like what i listen to, old music doesn't have enough energy with it

The Sonics have 50 times the energy of any Metalcore band.


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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618560)
metalcore has tons of emotion with it, whether it is the vocals or the breakdown that leads to a solo. It all has great emotion. Emotion emotion.

All music has emotion, be it apathy, despair, fear, sadness, love or happiness. You happen to relate with Metalcore more. Now stfu.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 618564)
The Sonics have 50 times the energy of any Metalcore band.



All music has emotion, be it apathy, despair, fear, sadness, love or happiness. You happen to relate with Metalcore more. Now stfu.

Parkway Drive > The sonics when it comes to emotion. I've heard them both a ton.

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 08:06 PM

People need to stop stating facts like what they say is right.

Music = opinion.

PinkCigarette 03-20-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 618566)
People need to stop stating facts like what they say is right.

Music = opinion.


Saying older music has no energy or emotion is just stupid. He can have his own opinion but it is pretty much a fact that old music consists of both energy and emotion so yeah, he's pretty incorrect on that "opinion". He doesn't have to like it but to say classic rock is void of these elements is just silly.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 618566)
People need to stop stating facts like what they say is right.

Music = opinion.

i know, some dude got butt hurt and recommended me some cool older bands to listen to and i said they were not good.

ProggyMan 03-20-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618565)
Parkway Drive > The sonics when it comes to emotion. I've heard them both a ton.

Ok...You're entitled to you opinion...But guess what...So is everyone else, and everyone has different tastes, so everyone will enjoy different things. Do you understand now? I won't bother arguing about Metalcore since you'll grow out of it if you stay here anyway.

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618569)
i know, some dude got butt hurt and recommended me some cool older bands to listen to and i said they were not good.

The **** do you expect? If you come to a music board and trash every band not from the past 20 years do you think people will be nice and polite to you?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-20-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618559)
new riffs > old riffs

that's why i like what i listen to, old music doesn't have enough energy with it



Observe , then shut up

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 08:11 PM

Alright, I agree...it is a fact that old music has energy and emotion.

In that time, they were heavy as fawk.

Alfred 03-20-2009 08:11 PM

I don't listen to a whole shitload of "classic rock", but I can see how people enjoy it so much. Maybe it just appeals to them more than the music of today.

I personally feel that today's music sounds better, is performed better, and there's way more varieties. But it all started somewhere...

SATCHMO 03-20-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 618556)
I don't dislike the classic rock bands because they are old.

I simply don't enjoy their music!

I'll admit that it is more creative than the stuff I listen to, but it just doesn't appeal to what my brain enjoys listening to!

My post wasn't really directed at you. I don't like classic rock, for the most part. Which really means that I would never decide to just tune into a classic rock station and listen to it. It's a vague term that encompasses a lot of great music and a lot of terrible music, but what it really is is a type of radio station demographic, NOT a genre of music.
My post is directed at the creator of this thread. If you don't like something that's fine. There's a lot of music I don't like eiher, but don't make the choice to display your own ignorance and post a thread about it. All it does is cause everybody to try to reason with someone who,as wev'e seen in countless situations before is either too stubborn or ignorant to be reasoned with.
I'm not trying to be mean, but try to see the train wreck before leaving the station.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 618572)


Observe , then shut up

meh, it wasn't appealing. listen to a real guitar.


Janszoon 03-20-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618559)
new riffs > old riffs

that's why i like what i listen to, old music doesn't have enough energy with it

These metalcore bands you seem to like have riffs that sound like recycled 80s or 90s riffs. If you like new sounding riffs, why do you listen to these bands?

PinkCigarette 03-20-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618582)
meh, it wasn't appealing. listen to a real guitar.




Terrible, terrible comparison.

ProggyMan 03-20-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618582)
meh, it wasn't appealing. listen to a real guitar.


Ooh, recycled psuedo Thrash riffs, impressive.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-20-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618582)
meh, it wasn't appealing. listen to a real guitar.


A real guitar playing what? Some recycled NWOBHM riff from 1981 , and a lead singer clearing his throat.

MC5 preached revolution , all this shit preaches is awful writing that wouldn't even be acceptable for a 5th rate horror B movie.

Taste of my scythe? :laughing:

Janszoon 03-20-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618582)

Also very retro sounding. I don't consider that a bad thing but it's strange to me that someone obsessed with new and fresh sounding music would be into this.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 08:27 PM

the guitar in that song sounds much better than whatever you posted. Different style of music, but it still sounds cleaner and better IMO

ProggyMan 03-20-2009 08:29 PM

What does 'better' mean? How is cleaner better? Or do you just prefer it?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-20-2009 08:30 PM

So what if it's cleaner.

Production is there to enhance the sound , not be the best thing about it.

If your listening to a song and thinking to yourself 'wow what clean guitars' then why bother writing a song at all.

Besides what I posted was a live show from 1970 , it's hardly going to be up to the standards of a studio recording from post 2000 , and that wasn't the point in me posting it anyway. If you think that video didn't have decent riffs & energy you need your head tested.

Janszoon 03-20-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 618594)
So what if it's cleaner.

Production is there to enhance the sound , not be the best thing about it.

If your listening to a song and thinking to yourself 'wow what clean guitars' then why bother writing a song at all.

Plus a lot of music sounds better with a dirty sound, the MC5 are a case in point.

khfreek 03-20-2009 08:52 PM

I'm a fan of metalcore, but I have no illusions that is anywhere near having the emotional content of other genres... at least not in it's truest form. Here's some of the 'emotional' Parkway Drive for ya:


Urban Hat€monger ? 03-20-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 618615)
I'm a fan of metalcore, but I have no illusions that is anywhere near having the emotional content of other genres... at least not in it's truest form. Here's some of the 'emotional' Parkway Drive for ya:


You know I really wanted to slate this but I can't do it.

They manage to effortlessly weave the sound of about 20000 other bands who all sound exactly the same as this without getting distracted with things like originality & diversity.

Top marks

Antonio 03-20-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 617980)
First off, i'm not trying to get anyone here to hate me, this is just an opinion.

Why do so many people consider classical music to be so great? It seems like everyone gives a ton of credit to older music, like metallica, led zepplin, black sabbath etc. But i don't see what is so good about it. Yeah, it is good music don't get me wrong, but i don't see how anyone can stand to listen to a whole sabbath album and say it is freakin EPIC. Yeah, everyone has different tastes, but for kids like myself who weren't around in that era of music, since the style has changed drastically, i just can't see why so many people like it so much.

Personally, i think most classical music is good, but i don't consider it great anymore. Maybe 15 years ago it would fly, but now days it just sounds so boring.

well it depends on what you look for in music. plenty of people go for something like a catchy hook or maybe something heavy and fast. some people, like fans of classical music, would listen to the music itself, like the relationships between certain notes and the feeling put into it. imo, it's really just preference

Alfred 03-20-2009 09:00 PM

Parkway Drive, really ARE shit. I can enjoy Metalcore, but not when it's just an imitation of death/thrash/power metal band for kids who can't appreciate the real thing.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 618615)
I'm a fan of metalcore, but I have no illusions that is anywhere near having the emotional content of other genres... at least not in it's truest form. Here's some of the 'emotional' Parkway Drive for ya:


awesome song, but i think it is second place emotionally. I would say romance is dead is more emotional. " SO CRY ME A ****ING RIVER "

best line ever, nuff said

Alfred 03-20-2009 09:05 PM

Yeah, that's some pretty deep stuff.

Anteater 03-20-2009 09:07 PM

Very strange. I feel like we're all getting trolled by Darkest Hour and Co., as their responses seem to blow off everything you guys are saying. :soccer:

ProggyMan 03-20-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 618623)
awesome song, but i think it is second place emotionally. I would say romance is dead is more emotional. " SO CRY ME A ****ING RIVER "

best line ever, nuff said

Lol, I think Anteater's right.

khfreek 03-20-2009 09:23 PM

How about some metalcore and classical music combined? The result is better than almost all metalcore out there!



This is a studio recording dubbed over a live show btw.

Alfred 03-20-2009 09:28 PM

Yeah, that's decent stuff.

Darkest Hour 03-20-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 618646)
How about some metalcore and classical music combined? The result is better than almost all metalcore out there!



This is a studio recording dubbed over a live show btw.

that riff is sick. Be my friend please.

lucifer_sam 03-20-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 618617)
You know I really wanted to slate this but I can't do it.

They manage to effortlessly weave the sound of about 20000 other bands who all sound exactly the same as this without getting distracted with things like originality & diversity.

Top marks

:laughing:

Janszoon 03-20-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 618641)
Lol, I think Anteater's right.

Yeah, after reading that post I had the same thought.

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 09:54 PM

That CoB sound sounded tight.

But some riffs I enjoy, that don't really sound recycled to me would be:




ProggyMan 03-20-2009 09:55 PM

They don't sound recycled to you because you haven't heard the bands they're ripping off.

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 618681)
They don't sound recycled to you because you haven't heard the bands they're ripping off.

Like who?

I probably will know the bands you say, and have heard what you think they sound like.

It's called taking classic riffs and MAKING THEM BETTER.

Alfred 03-20-2009 10:02 PM

Lol, look at Bullet For My Valentine and how metal they are.

thisWARisours 03-20-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 618693)
Lol, look at Bullet For My Valentine and how metal they are.

What a total dumbass response that has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.

If you wanna hate on them, do it in a thread asking what you think about them.

And did I say that BFMV was sooo metal? Did I even mention the word "metal"?

Pretty sure I didn't.

Go.


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