You guys still have those people over there? (American, members)

SATCHMO · 03-19-2009, 08:22 PM

I remember When I first started posting here 4 yrs ago many of the British members would always refer to some loser-types as chavs (sp?). I became very obsessed with this particularly grimey sub-culture and no matter how much people tried to explain them to me I never quite got it.
I have noticed that noone really mentions chavs anymore. Have they deevolved out of the culture like some grotesque darwinian model of natural selection or has everyone just gotten over them?
And if anyone would still like to attempt to explain these people to me I'd love, still, to understand this remarkable example of the denigration of British culture.

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2009, 08:25 PM

My understanding is that the closest American analogue to a chav is Atlantic City boardwalk trash. Does that help?

SATCHMO · 03-19-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

My understanding is that the closest American analogue to a chav is Atlantic City boardwalk trash. Does that help?

Hehehe that's FUNNY

*puts the lap top down and just giggles to himself for a little while*

lucifer_sam · 03-19-2009, 08:53 PM

google is such a wonderful resource.

"chav":

"douchebag":

it's like they're twins!

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

"douchebag":

it's like they're twins!

Welcome to Atlantic City my friend.

SATCHMO · 03-19-2009, 08:58 PM

Wow, it's....it's....It's NEW JERSEY! I need like a full sociological overview of this. The more I see the more confused I become.

Sneer · 03-19-2009, 08:59 PM

Chavs are still about in their droves, i've just gotten older and consequently do not mix with them as much anymore. They are scumbags the lot of them. Bigots of low intelligence and low culture

lucifer_sam · 03-19-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Welcome to Atlantic City my friend.

i used to hate using the term "gweedo" because i thought it was a racial epithet, not sure anymore, most don't look remotely italian.

in case you were wondering what "jersey trash" sound like:

SATCHMO · 03-19-2009, 09:12 PM

But what's the unifying principle of this group? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Socio-economic, ethnic, political etc. Do they all just like fake tans, verically striped shirts and making shadow puppets of butterflies? Do you know what I'm asking? Someone didn't just one day say" hey you look like a sleazy oompa loompa just like me. Lets be Chavs and cavort like heinous dirtbags!" This is what I'm getting at.

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

But what's the unifying principle of this group? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Socio-economic, ethnic, political etc. Do they all just like fake tans, verically striped shirts and making shadow puppets of butterflies? Do you know what I'm asking? Someone didn't just one day say" hey you look like a sleazy oompa loompa just like me. Lets be Chavs and cavort like heinous dirtbags!" This is what I'm getting at.

From what I can tell chavs, like their American brethren, are young middle to lower class whites who enjoy club music and acting like goons. I think the fake tend thing is exclusive to the American faction though.

Do you know New Jersey well? My Atlantic City example kind of assumed that you did. I kind of take Jersey familiarity for granted because I lived in Philly for a long time.

03-19-2009, 08:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	You guys still have those people over there? I remember When I first started posting here 4 yrs ago many of the British members would always refer to some loser-types as chavs (sp?). I became very obsessed with this particularly grimey sub-culture and no matter how much people tried to explain them to me I never quite got it. I have noticed that noone really mentions chavs anymore. Have they deevolved out of the culture like some grotesque darwinian model of natural selection or has everyone just gotten over them? And if anyone would still like to attempt to explain these people to me I'd love, still, to understand this remarkable example of the denigration of British culture.

03-19-2009, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	My understanding is that the closest American analogue to a chav is Atlantic City boardwalk trash. Does that help? __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

03-19-2009, 08:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	google is such a wonderful resource. "chav": "douchebag": it's like they're twins! __________________ first.am

03-19-2009, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Chavs are still about in their droves, i've just gotten older and consequently do not mix with them as much anymore. They are scumbags the lot of them. Bigots of low intelligence and low culture __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

03-19-2009, 08:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Wow, it's....it's....It's NEW JERSEY! I need like a full sociological overview of this. The more I see the more confused I become.

03-19-2009, 09:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	But what's the unifying principle of this group? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Socio-economic, ethnic, political etc. Do they all just like fake tans, verically striped shirts and making shadow puppets of butterflies? Do you know what I'm asking? Someone didn't just one day say" hey you look like a sleazy oompa loompa just like me. Lets be Chavs and cavort like heinous dirtbags!" This is what I'm getting at.