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Kiwi22 03-19-2009 03:58 PM

Natasha Richardson dies after ski accident
 
This is such devastating news... after a ski accident on Monday in Canada she suffered blunt head trauma and passed away yesterday afternoon. She leaves behind her husband, Liam Neeson, two young sons and family and friends who adored her.

My thoughts and prayers go out to her family...
http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/5412475.jpg

Stars Pay Tribute to Richardson

adidasss 03-19-2009 03:59 PM

Really, why is it devastating for you?

PinkCigarette 03-19-2009 04:00 PM

Sorry that she died but she's a bit of a fool for not wearing a helmet OR getting checked after. It doesn't matter if you feel fine.

Sad news but she should have been more active in terms of making 100% sure she had no internal injuries.

Sneer 03-19-2009 04:05 PM

It wasnt really her fault; she was on a beginner's slope, or a 'nursery' slope wherein it isnt essential, or even 'necessary', that you wear a helmet.

PinkCigarette 03-19-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 617788)
It wasnt really her fault; she was on a beginner's slope, or a 'nursery' slope wherein it isnt essential, or even 'necessary', that you wear a helmet.

Whether it's necessary or not, I don't know, I don't ski, but regardless, she should have gotten medical attention after, even if she felt okay. They would have had a far better chance of saving her life.

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 04:09 PM

How come people become "devastated" when a famous person croaks, meanwhile, other people kicking up daisies on a daily basis get nary a thread?

Sneer 03-19-2009 04:11 PM

Because people arent aware of their existence on a wide scale? Pretty obvious i would have thought.

adidasss 03-19-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617793)
How come people become "devastated" when a famous person croaks, meanwhile, other people kicking up daisies on a daily basis get nary a thread?

Not only that, but I really don't see this woman as a particularly famous or accomplished artist...I haven't seen a single film by her. Is this hot news because she's Liam Neeson's wife?

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 617797)
Because people arent aware of their existence on a wide scale? Pretty obvious i would have thought.

If you're not aware of people's existence on a wide scale, then you need a thread, my friend...

Janszoon 03-19-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 617799)
Not only that, but I really don't see this woman as a particularly famous or accomplished artist...I haven't seen a single film by her. Is this hot news because she's Liam Neeson's wife?

Probably. It's still a sad story though, no matter how famous she is or isn't.

ETA: Also, she's Vanessa Redgrave's daughter in addition to being Liam Neeson's wife.

Sneer 03-19-2009 04:20 PM

So i should be aware of the existence of people who i've never seen, heard or met? Please fill me in on your secrets.

Kiwi22 03-19-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMurder (Post 617792)
Whether it's necessary or not, I don't know, I don't ski, but regardless, she should have gotten medical attention after, even if she felt okay. They would have had a far better chance of saving her life.

That's the scariest part... when you "feel fine" most people don't want to make a scene by going to the hospital... I probably would've been tough about it too unless I could feel something was really wrong.

Regarding helmets... I've skied since I was 5 and never wore a helmet...but I think it's a lot easier to learn when your a kid and lower to the ground... for an adult just learning, I think it's definitely a good idea to wear one bc that's when you are at most risk for falling.

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 617804)
So i should be aware of the existence of people who i've never seen, heard or met? Please fill me in on your secrets.


Become aware that there are, in fact, people that exist... Then just become aware that a large number of those people die every day. You don't have to know them personally or even know their names. The fact that so many people die, regardless of whether you know who they are or not, is a little more devastating than one chick living in Hollywood that you've seen on TV.

I'm not diminishing her death, but I'm not about to say she's more important than any other lifeform.

adidasss 03-19-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 617803)
Probably. It's still a sad story though, no matter how famous she is or isn't.

ETA: Also, she's Vanessa Redgrave's daughter in addition to being Liam Neeson's wife.

Yeah, I suppose it is, but since I've never heard of her before today, I'd feel like a hypocrite to say I cared a lot. Sounds awful, but at least it's truthful. :\

I only say this because this is the third thread I've read on this today with people offering their condolences and wishing her peace and prayers. So yeah....:|

Janszoon 03-19-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617810)
Become aware that there are, in fact, people that exist... Then just become aware that a large number of those people die every day. You don't have to know them personally or even know their names. The fact that so many people die, regardless of whether you know who they are or not, is a little more devastating than one chick living in Hollywood that you've seen on TV.

I'm not diminishing her death, but I'm not about to say she's more important than any other lifeform.

I don't think anyone's saying she is. It's just that this is a story that's in the news right now so people are aware of it and reacting to it. If you told me a similar story about some non-famous person I'd find it equally sad.

Janszoon 03-19-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 617814)
Yeah, I suppose it is, but since I've never heard of her before today, I'd feel like a hypocrite to say I cared a lot. Sounds awful, but at least it's truthful. :\

I only say this because this is the third thread I've read on this today with people offering their condolences and wishing her peace and prayers. So yeah....:|

Yeah, I don't get the offering of condolences thing either. It's not like Liam Neeson is sitting around reading Music Banter.

Sneer 03-19-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617810)
Become aware that there are, in fact, people that exist... Then just become aware that a large number of those people die every day. You don't have to know them personally or even know their names. The fact that so many people die, regardless of whether you know who they are or not, is a little more devastating than one chick living in Hollywood that you've seen on TV.

I'm not diminishing her death, but I'm not about to say she's more important than any other lifeform.

Of course i'm aware of other people's existence. And it's true what you say, there is something wrong with the fact there are millions of people dying everyday yet they are just seen as a statistic whilst one 'celebrity' dying is a tragedy. Anyone with an ounce about them though realises 99.9% of deaths are a tragedy, and there are people that care about every single one of them. The only reason the death of a 'celebrity' is so documented is because, through the media, more people are aware of them, their successes and their failings.

PinkCigarette 03-19-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 617819)
Of course i'm aware of other people's existence. And it's true what you say, there is something wrong with the fact there are millions of people dying everyday yet they are just seen as a statistic whilst one 'celebrity' dying is a tragedy. Anyone with an ounce about them though realises 99.9% of deaths are a tragedy, and there are people that care about every single one of them. The only reason the death of a 'celebrity' is so documented is because, through the media, more people are aware of them, their successes and their failings.

Exactly.


It sucks when anyone dies but more people tend to pay attention when it's a famous person and more people will know them.

Piss Me Off 03-19-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 617816)
It's not like Liam Neeson is sitting around reading Music Banter.

Imagine that!

right-track 03-19-2009 05:31 PM

She left young two sons.
It's a tragic accident.

Where's the empathy?

lucifer_sam 03-19-2009 05:38 PM

You know I can't tell the difference between empathy and sympathy.

Guybrush 03-19-2009 05:41 PM

^I agree, it's a tragic accident and famous or not doesn't change that. The family has my sympathy.

@lucifer, empathy allows for sympathy. ;)

right-track 03-19-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 617857)
You know I can't tell the difference between empathy and sympathy.

Empathy is putting yourself in the position of another and understanding what they may be feeling.

In this case, two young lads having lost their mother.


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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 617860)

@lucifer, empathy allows for sympathy. ;)

^ Nicely put.

Darkest Hour 03-19-2009 06:37 PM

this thread kind of makes me sick tbh

lucifer_sam 03-19-2009 07:58 PM

oh the irony.

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 09:57 PM

I just don't see the point of threading about it.
If it's a broadly televised incident then everyone's already heard of it.

I have sympathy, but its a process that runs in the background.

Darkest Hour 03-19-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617978)
I just don't see the point of threading about it.
If it's a broadly televised incident then everyone's already heard of it.

I have sympathy, but its a process that runs in the background.

i didn't hear of it until i saw it here. Why can't people just say rip and get over it? If it was mel gibson or something this thread would be 20 pages by now.

I don't think she was a recognizable actor though really, so maybe she shouldn't have a thread, but no need to argue

dac 03-19-2009 10:10 PM

Tragic yes, but no more tragic than the hundreds of accidental deaths that happen each day.

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 617982)
Tragic yes, but no more tragic than the hundreds of accidental deaths that happen each day.


That was my original point of view.
I've since then toned it down to "Meh..."

Yukon Cornelius 03-20-2009 07:58 AM

Quit complaining, its not sick or weird that ppl are upset ok.... Famous ppl get famous because of us. We decided their fate honestly. We have to like and go see other filims by these ppl. She was obviously an actress that ppl enjoyed otherwise she would have not been famous. Bottom line thats why ppl react.

Also from what i have seen ppl have a soft spot when a mother leaves behind some children. Either way thats all I' ve got.

Guybrush 03-20-2009 10:23 AM

If I see a tragedy that touches me in some way, I'm not gonna say "phf, people suffer like that elsewhere too, so I'm not gonna waste sympathy on them!" ..

I mean, it doesn't make sense. It's still a tragedy, right? So what if other people suffer too? If I read about their tragedies, I feel sorry for them as well. It's not like I have to carefully choose which one I feel sorry for.

Yukon Cornelius 03-20-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 618248)
If I see a tragedy that touches me in some way, I'm not gonna say "phf, people suffer like that elsewhere too, so I'm not gonna waste sympathy on them!" ..

I mean, it doesn't make sense. It's still a tragedy, right? So what if other people suffer too? If I read about their tragedies, I feel sorry for them as well. It's not like I have to carefully choose which one I feel sorry for.

Gross.


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