khfreek

Well, first of all it's fun to debate, and second of all, lots (not all) of the vegetarians are flimsy on the subject of staying loyal to it. For example, people who became vegetarians simply based on the Meet Your Meat movie are probably not going to be vegetarians for long.

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dac

My outlook on it is that humans biologically speaking are omnivores. We are supposed to eat meat AND vegetables. Science doesn't lie. There are enzymes in your stomach that exist specifically to break down meat. Further we have a combination of teeth that have uses to tear and shred meat. We are SUPPOSED to eat meat. And while I wouldn't bash anyone for choosing to be a vegetarian, from my point of view, you are wrong.

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anticipation

how can you be wrong for choosing what to put into your own body?

khfreek

If you're talking about meat, the argument is that it's harming other things in the process. The counter-argument is that it doesn't matter because they're animals. So if someone could prove to me that animals do love, then I would be wrong.

If you're talking about drugs, then no sir, you can not be wrong

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dac

Your body is engineered by evolution for the capability to harm animals for sustenance.

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anticipation

have you ever watched "my dog skip"?

The Unfan

This is a tricky one but I'll shoot. Cognitive ethology/anthropomorphism makes the case that if you observe animals and apply a human interpretation of their actions based on current knowledge of mutual benefits, enjoyment, and psychology that you'll see animals displaying what we think of as "human traits." However, many argue against this field because it requires presumption which is a no-no in the science world.

On the other hand, brain scans show that animals' brains react simularly to stimulation. In fact, for the most part they release proportionate amounts of the same chemicals. This would tell us that most animals feel basic emotions for sure. Complex emotions would require much more in depth studies. I'm not sure how you would go about testing such a thing or measure the results.

Personal non-scientific experience would have me lean torward cats feeling love. This may differ from other animals. If I'm gone for long periods of time my cat will pace in and out of my room. There are always other people around the house to take care of him so it would seem odd for him to do it for personal gain outside of genuinely feeling some form of attachment.

sweet_nothing

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Farfisa

Not all vegitarians are pacifists you know.

Laces Out Dan!

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