jackhammer

What is around us though? We have made our own lives better but to the detriment of other species and nature itself.

I think that you are perhaps reading my thoughts wrong. Human beings are capable of acts of oustanding bravery and devotion. However we treat the planet as a plaything and are now only just realising the extent of our folly. Why are we so hellbent on creating destruction amongst ourselves?

A bad description i know but: A lion will mercilesly hunts it's prey, rip it apart for meat with not any thought about consequences. It needs food and will find it. Yet a few hours later both the hunter and the hunted may well be drinking water from the same pool and nothing will happen.

Humans cannot do this. They desire and want and need and want to sate their flesh at every available opportunity. We eat when we are not hungry and drink when we are not thirsty. We do not fit into natures chain. We cannot change this now and neither should feel bad about it either. By knowing our faults, we can then work upon our positives and try to redress the many imbalances we have caused.

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streetwaves

If you're deluded. You've got no good reason to believe what you do, so unfortunately you are. Sure, I can believe that the universe is governed by any sort of fantastic being, but without evidence, I'd be deluded.

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Double X

Look in the mirror and say to yourself that the Holocaust was supposed to happen, and it happened solely because of divine intervention.

Meph1986

Stop or else.....

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Blue

As much as I stand with a lot of the thoughts being presented, I don't think I could ever tell someone that what they believe is wrong, because who's to say what I believe is right? I have no problem defending my beliefs, but, I'm not going to impose mine on someone else.

streetwaves

Here's the problem with that: first of all, all religious people do the very same thing. Christians basically say that Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, etc. are all wrong, and each of those religions have the same attitude towards each other. So me saying "all of you are wrong" is no worse - I'm just not picking one and saying that's right, based on zero evidence whatsoever.

And why not tell them, anyway? Because they have no reason to believe what they do, their certitude about their religion being right is totally out of line.

Why is religion any different? Why can I debate you on your ideas of the economy, but if I say anything about your religion, I'm stepping overboard? Religion has somehow convinced people not only that there's a man in the sky, but that it's not okay to argue about it. How convenient. But then again, I don't blame them. A belief that is not backed up by facts and can be largely disproved by science would not benefit from being debated.

But I think we should maybe have a thread devoted to debating religion rather than hijack a thread about something so important on its own.

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turboduck17

i hate religious talk

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FireInCairo

any news on the HIV front?

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jibber

Caution over transplant HIV 'cure' - Health News, Health & Wellbeing - The Independent

here's news on the HIV front. Doctor's in the UK are being very cautious about hailing this as a success, as the HIV virus has proven to be very adept at hiding in cells, so there may still be parts of the virus left. Also, bone marrow transplants are in incredibly invasive and intense procedure, not something that could be adopted as a widespread cure. another thing, the bone marrow was from a HIV resistant person, which constitutes only about 3% of the population of the UK. Now that is not a sample from the global population, but nonetheless, it is easy to see how logistically, bone marrow transplants would be impossible to implement as a cure for HIV world wide.

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Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass.

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streetwaves

While obviously the bone marrow thing would be too difficult to implement as a cure worldwide, it seems like they'd be able to take what they've learned and somehow develop some other sort of more practical cure.

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