Blame Canada! (The official Canada thread, yes that's right, official!) (country, American)

[sweet_nothing]

Originally Posted by RezZ

Before jumping the gun and saying all these bad things that America has done or gotten itself into and talking about how Canada is defiantly the better country stop and think for a second.

America does much more to help out other countries, and give much more aid than Canada could ever dream of.

Also America the most opportunity you could find in a country job/carrear wise.

1.we also do alot more to ruin them.
2.just not true

[Predator]

Murder rates.

Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Canada: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people

Hmmm.... Thats odd.

(my Canada sucks comment was a Family Guy reference, not my own thoughts.)

[Predator]

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

1.we also do alot more to ruin them.
2.just not true

Show facts or stfu.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

1.we also do alot more to ruin them.
2.just not true

Its called a larger scale is all. We are a bigger country. And that is nothing you can prove4 considering its all point of view and opinion.

And what do you mean its not true...name somewhere with more opportunity than America. Also give me some facts or numbers than just saying not true...

[sleepy jack]

Lets seriously compare a superpower to another nation just because the nation happens to be above it!!!

Seriously though if you get into things like military and world politics America is going to come out on top, it's ridiculous to compare them on that level. However the America gives more aid comment is pointless to bring up because they balance it out with immoral imperialism.

[NSW]

I'm a little curious as to how many of these American's saying Canada and the UK are better have actually been to these places.

It does seem to be a trendy thing to say. I'm not saying America's the best place to live (because I've never been anywhere else) but we definitely have our fine points.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife

I'm a little curious as to how many of these American's saying Canada and the UK are better have actually been to these places.

It does seem to be a trendy thing to say. I'm not saying America's the best place to live (because I've never been anywhere else) but we definitely have our fine points.

Well I'm not even American I was born and raised in Canada and only moved over here when I was 10 because of my parent so I think I have the right to voice my preference.

[NSW]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill

Well I'm not even American I was born and raised in Canada and only moved over here when I was 10 because of my parent so I think I have the right to voice my preference.

That you do. Me thinks that doesn't apply to everyone making the argument though...

[sweet_nothing]

Originally Posted by Predator

Show facts or stfu.

Facts ok, opportunitys? Yeh they are so many of them that's why alot of people have been losing their jobs lately because our economy is so great right now. I can't even get a job. And look at Iraq we really helped them out, or Vietnam.

Originally Posted by Predator

(my Canada sucks comment was a Family Guy reference, not my own thoughts.)

Family Guy sucks

[jibber]

Originally Posted by RezZ

Before jumping the gun and saying all these bad things that America has done or gotten itself into and talking about how Canada is defiantly the better country stop and think for a second.

America does much more to help out other countries, and give much more aid than Canada could ever dream of.

Also America the most opportunity you could find in a country job/carrear wise.

We have the best entertainment...most media and sports teams coming from here.

Now i am not bashing Canada, or saying we are some great country standing for everything good and right. I am just saying take a second before saying how much you think they are better off than we are. You are incredibly fortunate to be living in a country such as this where you can do whatever you want whenever you want. And also i am not saying Canada does not produce entertainment, give aid, and all those are great things, because that would be inccorect they do. But not nearly at the scale America has/does.

I thought originally this was going to be fun, but now I've come to the conclusion that it'll just be a tedious job pointing out exactly how ignorant and misinformed you are. *deep breath* and here we go.

Yes America gives a great deal of money in aid to other countries, but lets take a step back and look at the whole picture. For one, the US is one of the biggest arms dealers in the world (along with britain, france, russia and china), so while you're supplying food and relief to countries at war and facing genocide, you're also supplying the warring factions with the means to continue the brutal slaughter. This is intself does not make the US any worse than the other countries mentioned, but it's not helping your case either. Now, lets look at the wars started and the deaths caused by the united state's foreign policy. we'll ignore the many wars that were supplied with arms mainly by the united states (iraq/iran, soviet union/afghanistan, balkan wars) and focus on wars in recent history started by the US. First the vietnam war. A rough estimate of 1.5 million vietnamese were killed, and over three million wounded. generations after the war, people were still dying of complications and deformities brought from the effects of agent orange. mines littered the country, killing thousands more long after the war was over. slide over to cambodia. in '68 nixon started carpet bombing the eastern part of the country, "targeting" vc troops and khmer rouge. however, he didnt think it neccesary to release this information, and anywhere from 150,000 to 500,000 cambodians were killed in the bombings. many people argue that this helped greatly in the kr's rise to power, as they used the us bombings as a recruiting tool. up to laos. you probably didnt know that laos was/is the most heavily bombed nation on earth, ever. more bombs have falled on laos in its existence than have falled on any other nation in the world over the history of modern civilization. we have the US to thank for that, once again. nixon and lbj both bombed the **** out of the country "targetting" vc troops. as if that werent enough, if a bomber was flying back to the base in thailand after finishing a mission in vietnam, most of the time, any bombs that remained on board would be casually dropped over laos rather than go through the tedious and dangerous process of landing the plane with bombs on board. nice policy huh? as well, most of the cluster bombs still remaining in laos were supplied by the US, who has done VERY little to help with the clearing opperations. just so you know, a clearing team wont even bother with a village unless more than 100 uxo's (thats unexploded ordinances) are found in the area. now doesnt all that just leave you with a nice warm fuzzy feeling?

now on to iraq. please save your arguments for why the US HAD to go in to conquer a terrorist faction (that has been proved to have never been in the country untill AFTER the US invaded), to thwart sadam's efforts to build nuclear weapons (that have been proven never to have existed, and the programs to build them disasembles years before the US invaded). I'm only concerned with facts, not mindless propoganda. Since the war it's estimated that somewhere between 83,000 and 91,000 iraqi civilians have died. all in a war that was justified by absolutely nothing else than the desire for the control of oil and to set up a puppet government in a hostile area of the world. I could debate more on the subject, and go WAY more into detail, but I wont for now, because I am certain I know far more on this subject than you do, and unless someone with an intelligent point chimes in, I see no point in discussing the matter further.

now look at canada's record. we have our shady areas in the past, the treatment of japanese citizens durring the war comes to mind. although they werent slaughtered, and that really pales in comparison to the US record mentioned above. another interesting fact, while the US ranks at the top of the list in terms of foreign aid given in absolute terms, it ranks squarely at the bottom of the list of developed countries in terms of aid given as a percentage of GDP. not looking quite as good is it?

finally on to your last statement? while the unemployment rate is still relatively low, the fact remains that the US economy is steadily going down the sh*tter. and estimation of the US's debt is $9,370,513,865,298. well over 9 trillion dollars. not such a great economy. while unemployment is still quite low, it's been on the rise for years and most seem to think it's a trend that wont be slowing down any time soon. so before you go on about the strength of the economy, look at the facts.

that about sums up everything that im willing to write in one post, but by no means is that all. to end it, your weed sucks, your beer tastes like piss water, canada owns the US at hockey, and you're still fatter than us.