Media Bias (country, house, quote, suicide)

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 04-28-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

lol...your vote isn't exactly publically available information.
Link?
Well they do.

Asch conformity experiments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Conformity and a lack of ability to see things through other's perspectives has been the cause of many wars and downfalls of civilizations. Historians have quoted that before.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 04-28-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

so they should conform to your ideals instead?

Heh, what are my ideals, that FoxNews is biased? Anyone who reads this is free to think that or disagree with it. I don't really give a sh*t what people think, but I wish they were dissuaded from lies. I was providing some little known evidence as to why they're lies.
For instance, that Bill Ayers quote where he said, 'I wish we would have done more,' has been used repeatedly on FoxNews to trumpet the fact that Ayers was an unrepentent terrorist. But, they took the quote completely out of context. It's my right, and my duty as an American to point out these falsities.

Zombeels · 04-28-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

really? i get the impression you really just want to say they're being mean to obama.

as for your public enlightenment towards foxnews maybe you should read TheBig3KilledMyRainDog's comment again. just because YOU want to believe in the ideal of truth in advertising / media doesn't mean i have to.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. You seem to acknowledge the dishonesty and blatant biased agenda Fox news has but you feel it is better to keep quiet and ignore it?

mr dave · 04-29-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

I'm not sure what you are getting at. You seem to acknowledge the dishonesty and blatant biased agenda Fox news has but you feel it is better to keep quiet and ignore it?

more like i just don't bother with foxnews. anyone with half a clue in their head can see that it's bogus so why even acknowledge it as remotely factual? do you get upset at tabloid headlines? does the national enquirer really grind your gears?

so yeah, i ignore foxnews and if more people did they would change because their ratings would drop. but instead we get a bunch of idealist morons tuning in so they can get pissed off about inaccuracies in their reports and then continue drawing attention to the source by whining about it all over the net. it's the same way religious groups established howard stern's early career.

it's like the old saying goes - there's no such thing as bad press. if theused2lguy really didn't give a crap what other people thought and truly believed they were free to think what they wanted then why would he complain about the views they choose to acknowledge?

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 04-29-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

more like i just don't bother with foxnews. anyone with half a clue in their head can see that it's bogus so why even acknowledge it as remotely factual? do you get upset at tabloid headlines? does the national enquirer really grind your gears?

That's really not a very good example. Anyone with half a clue in their head can see that the national enquirer is bogus. Only an extremely deluded person could possibly believe that some child in South America was raised in a cave by a family of bats. I would assume the people who buy it are a. extremly deluded, or b. buying it for sheer entertainment value.
Whereas, a lot of people who watch FoxNews really believe everything they say, and we're talking in the millions of people. I don't think in all cases the people are necessarily dumb, but they're extremely R wing, and hold fast to their ideas, and thus, want to believe everything they are told.
As for the last part of your post, it's hard not to be intrigued by a network that draws such huge ratings. The network doesn't just reveal that it lies constantly, but also its popularity reveals that we are becoming dumber and dumber as a society. It concerns me, but as you've made it clear: It doesn't concern you. We'll continue to become more brainless, and mind-controlled, like the society in 1984, without ever objecting. That's apparently what you would like, if I am to interpret your posts correctly.

Zombeels · 04-29-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

more like i just don't bother with foxnews. anyone with half a clue in their head can see that it's bogus so why even acknowledge it as remotely factual? do you get upset at tabloid headlines? does the national enquirer really grind your gears?

My understanding is most people know that the tabloids are nothing but crap. With Fox you have an overwhelming population of Americans who regard it as gospel.

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so yeah, i ignore foxnews and if more people did they would change because their ratings would drop.

I've only seen Fox news once while I was traveling. I'm quite sure that if all those who consider Fox to be nothing more than a rag decided to stop watching it it would lose at most 10% of it's viewer ship.

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we get a bunch of idealist morons tuning in so they can get pissed off about inaccuracies in their reports and then continue drawing attention to the source by whining about it all over the net. it's the same way religious groups established howard stern's early career.

But if no one reported these inaccuracies thn the loyal Fox viewers would still regard Fox as holy scripture. I know most still do but I'm starting to see some kinks in the armour of some FOX diehards.

Years ago not one conservative would even admit to Fox's biased reporting. Now they acknowledge it but deflect it by calling all other news sources liberal. While you chose to ignore and not give it attention others chose to chip away at the inaccuracies. No big deal.

mr dave · 04-29-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

I don't think in all cases the people are necessarily dumb, but they're extremely R wing, and hold fast to their ideas, and thus, want to believe everything they are told.

and that generalization is different from me saying that most 'free' thinkers aren't necessarily blind idealists but they're extremely L wing, hold fast to their views, and thus want to not believe anything they say how?

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

As for the last part of your post, it's hard not to be intrigued by a network that draws such huge ratings. The network doesn't just reveal that it lies constantly, but also its popularity reveals that we are becoming dumber and dumber as a society. It concerns me, but as you've made it clear: It doesn't concern you. We'll continue to become more brainless, and mind-controlled, like the society in 1984, without ever objecting. That's apparently what you would like, if I am to interpret your posts correctly.

how is it that tv ratings are indicative of social intelligence? broad generalizations about how things should be concern me, from both the left and right wings.

you say i want to be controlled, whatever. what's a free society supposed to look like? what's government supposed to be? I control myself, my shortcomings are my own, my wants are my own, same as my needs, and I am the one responsible for them. i don't think my crap smells good enough to go around dictating to people to open up their minds because they listen to news i don't particularly agree with.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-30-2008, 11:58 AM

By pointing out those biasses they're using their free speech a free society should have to make a point, which is exactly what the news does. How comes its all cool when Fox harpoons liberals, but the instant someone says something about Fox its detrimental. Why should we ignore Fox while Fox doesn't ignore us?

mr dave · 04-30-2008, 12:23 PM

because fox only pays attention to us while we pay attention to it, doesn't matter if it's positive or negative attention. they just want attention (ratings). same as any other broadcaster.

TheBig3 · 04-30-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy

LOL, no I won't move on to my really real for real point, because I have already stated the point of this thread. It was to point out that FoxNews is extremely biased toward the R, and most of the media in general is biased toward the right. I found it necessary to bring this up, because they are always purporting there is a liberal bias. Also, I did a very good job of this, by saying that they're constantly attacking Bill Ayers, someone who Barrack Obama has occasionally been in the same place with, by saying he's a terrorist, when in fact he was just an anarchist at worst. They have also called him a 'killer', when he has never killed anyone, and also the only people the Weather Underground has killed have inadvertently been members of their own party.

You're an atrocity.

Your point is that Fox News is Bias? Who were you alerting with that rallying cry? Did anyone not know that?

Do you honestly get your world view from the back of the car in front of you?And I'm inclined to agree with mr. dave on this one. You're rapid in your need to condemn the right while nary a liberal descent to speak of.

List me 5 distinct reasons Obama shouldn't be president.

04-30-2008, 11:58 AM	#38 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	By pointing out those biasses they're using their free speech a free society should have to make a point, which is exactly what the news does. How comes its all cool when Fox harpoons liberals, but the instant someone says something about Fox its detrimental. Why should we ignore Fox while Fox doesn't ignore us?