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Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:06 PM

America, F*ck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Uh, no

I was just kidding
I love this country, but I hate the people in it.
I especially hate the fact that none of my family or friends think that most people are bad in this country.
Most of us are liars, I mean how bad does it have to get for us to admit that to ourselves?

This is a thread to open up the dialogue a little bit. I'm incredibly creeped out by most people I see on a day to day basis, and let's face it, unless we admit that things, won't change.

So here I am saying Most Americans are really, really sh*tty people.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:11 PM

I hate this country all together, i'm moving to the UK

Dr_Rez 04-13-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468907)
Uh, no

I was just kidding
I love this country, but I hate the people in it.
I especially hate the fact that none of my family or friends think that most people are bad in this country.
Most of us are liars, I mean how bad does it have to get for us to admit that to ourselves?

This is a thread to open up the dialogue a little bit. I'm incredibly creeped out by most people I see on a day to day basis, and let's face it, unless we admit that things, won't change.

So here I am saying Most Americans are really, really sh*tty people.


1. You are blind.
2. I am not even going to argue this because what you said is a really stupid generalization.

Someone else feel free to back me up because i refuse to argue this.

Lizzie 04-13-2008 03:20 PM

TheUsed21Guy is a moron, no one should bother arguing this.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:21 PM

1.Americans are ignorrant and blind
2.They no nothing of current affairs because they're to worried about what celebs are doing
3.This country is ruled by Christian hypocrites

simplephysics 04-13-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468927)
1.Americans are ignorrant and blind
2.They no nothing of current affairs because they're to worried about what celebs are doing
3.This country is ruled by Christian hypocrites

that doesn't mean the entire population is ****ed though.

Lizzie 04-13-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468927)
1.Americans are ignorrant and blind
2.They no nothing of current affairs because they're to worried about what celebs are doing
3.This country is ruled by Christian hypocrites

Again, your first two points are incredibly stupid and broad generalizations


And you spelled ignorant and 'know' wrong

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses (Post 468931)
that doesn't mean the entire population is ****ed though.

no not all of them but here in Texas their alot of right winged every muslim's a terrorist people here, like my biology teacher who told us that 'muslims are crazy bastards' then I walked out of class.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 468935)
Again, your first two points are incredibly stupid generalizations


And you spelled ignorant and 'know' wrong

sorry I was typing fast =\

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468911)
I hate this country all together, i'm moving to the UK

Well, that's understandable with you being from Texas.
I'm actually in Texas right now, and I notice people acting so f*cking macho, that it forced me to make this thread.
Like I said, I love this country, and by the way, RezZ, who would be in a better position to judge how they feel about most people?
Me - a truck driver who has been to every state excluding Maine, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii, or you? I don't know much about you, but trust me, I have been driving over the road for about 2 years, and I am basing this thread off of my experiences with every area of the U.S. Some parts are better than others, without question. I'm sorry to burst all of your bubbles. I'm sure all of you wish you could live your lives, and fantasizing about the way you want things to be, as opposed to the way that they actually are, and never receive any interference from someone like me, but I'm allowed to speak my mind, and until one of the moderators ban me, I will continue to do so.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:30 PM

I take it back I don't hate this country I hate Texas.

Nosmada 04-13-2008 03:31 PM

I think, to many generalizations are being made. there are still good people in America. here is a little story, two years ago i was in the states playing baseball, i was playing for a Japanese's university team, traveling through th US playing tournaments. We played a tournament in Kentucky, and one of the teams we played, they were from Alabama, started throwing at the Japaneses kids, and running our catcher. You want to know what their motivation was, Pearl Harbor.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 468935)
Again, your first two points are incredibly stupid and broad generalizations


And you spelled ignorant and 'know' wrong

Again, I have traveled to 46 of the 50 states, and am basing my argument off that. You are probably basing your defense of Americans off of your interaction with those in a very small section of this country, NW Washington, so please don't call me a moron. Your arguments are more generalizing than mine.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468953)
Again, I have traveled to 46 of the 50 states, and am basing my argument off that. You are probably basing your defense of Americans off of your interaction with those in a very small section of this country, NW Washington, so please don't call me a moron. Your arguments are more generalizing than mine.

True, lizzie you need to come down South for awhile and see all the red-necks with their confederate flags and bumper stickers on the back of their trucks that say 'the south will rise again'

Predator 04-13-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468943)
Well, that's understandable with you being from Texas.
I'm actually in Texas right now, and I notice people acting so f*cking macho, that it forced me to make this thread.
Like I said, I love this country, and by the way, RezZ, who would be in a better position to judge how they feel about most people?
Me - a truck driver who has been to every state excluding Maine, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii, or you? I don't know much about you, but trust me, I have been driving over the road for about 2 years, and I am basing this thread off of my experiences with every area of the U.S. Some parts are better than others, without question. I'm sorry to burst all of your bubbles. I'm sure all of you wish you could live your lives, and fantasizing about the way you want things to be, as opposed to the way that they actually are, and never receive any interference from someone like me, but I'm allowed to speak my mind, and until one of the moderators ban me, I will continue to do so.

I have been in the military and was raised in a military family. I have LIVED all over the country and traveled to other countries for 30 years. From my experience the most polite and honest people come from Texas. Never have I felt more welcome and safe then when I lived there. In your whole 2 years driving truck across the country, what areas do you tend to stop in? Mostly not to far from highways? Sticking mostly to metro areas? Of course you have to go through smaller areas to get to the cities, but how often do you stop there? There are plenty of good people in this country, just the same as any other. Your experience must have been different than mine. I could also say that my experience says that truck drivers are all smelly perverts. I can say this because I have worked on a lot of trucks and the drivers tend to smell bad and solo drivers tend to have quite a bit of porn in the cab.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosmada (Post 468947)
I think, to many generalizations are being made. there are still good people in America. here is a little story, two years ago i was in the states playing baseball, i was playing for a Japanese's university team, traveling through th US playing tournaments. We played a tournament in Kentucky, and one of the teams we played, they were from Alabama, started throwing at the Japaneses kids, and running our catcher. You want to know what their motivation was, Pearl Harbor.

I will be sure to censure myself here, and make sure I'm not being too anti-American. I'm just
going off the way I feel about most Americans. You were probably defending most Americans, but I'm glad you can open your eyes and realize that maybe not every American is much like the ones you've met, and Sweet Nothing you're right the South is generally very creepy. By the way, I hope your not defending their actions, or that would be incredibly irrational discrimination, unless they did research before the game, and determined that not only were these Japanese kids somehow related to those who perpetrated the attacks at Pearl Harbor, but also were very proud of them, and would further encourage that type of behavior.
It just goes to show how blind and irrational some Americans hatred of other countries is.

Predator 04-13-2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468927)
1.Americans are ignorrant and blind
2.They no nothing of current affairs because they're to worried about what celebs are doing
3.This country is ruled by Christian hypocrites

I'm ignorant and blind? What do you know of world affairs?

Wayfarer 04-13-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468911)
I hate this country all together, i'm moving to the UK

If you hate your country so much, get involved and at least try to fix it.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 468972)
I'm ignorant and blind? What do you know of world affairs?

I'm talking abot my generation really. Like this girl in my geography class goes 'Hitler wasn't he like our Jewish president?', no joke.

Lizzie 04-13-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468953)
Again, I have traveled to 46 of the 50 states, and am basing my argument off that. You are probably basing your defense of Americans off of your interaction with those in a very small section of this country, NW Washington, so please don't call me a moron. Your arguments are more generalizing than mine.

Right, My argument is full of generalizations, mine. Am I the one saying that all Americans are ignorant, dumb, liars? Am I the one basing my whole argument solely on my experiences with people in America, and not taking anything else into account? No, thats you. You are the one being incredibly ignorant and dumb for saying such things about the 300,000,000+ people living in America. Maybe all the people you have met were liars and cheats and everything else, but have you personally met all of the people living in America? Have you talked to them all and learned all about there opinions and views? No, and just because you have been to 46 of the states doesn't mean you can say such thing about a whole entire ****in nation.
You are generalizing, plain and simple

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 468976)
If you hate your country so much, get involved and at least try to fix it.

I'm 16, i can't vote my opinion doesn't matter because i'm still a kid.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 468968)
Your experience must have been different than mine. I could also say that my experience says that truck drivers are all smelly perverts. I can say this because I have worked on a lot of trucks and the drivers tend to smell bad and solo drivers tend to have quite a bit of porn in the cab.

HA, that's true. Although, your statement wouldn't really be comparable to mine, because I didn't say all Americans are sh*tty people, I said most of them. You might wonder, what comprises a sh*tty person? I guess lying would be one characteristic that most of us embody which cannot possibly benefit society in any way, and yet I consider most Americans to be liars. Am I wrong here?

savannah 04-13-2008 04:00 PM

sweets, sweetie,....your lack of tolerance for other people's way of life is sickening,......
it takes all types my friend,....all types,....

i wish i were closer, so i could help you pack your bags

sleepy jack 04-13-2008 04:05 PM

America was founded on rape and murder so as a country I have to say I question our history and it's like we're sliding towards fascism also so I question our present too.

I don't understand how you can say "I love the country but hate the people" a country is basically the people.

Predator 04-13-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah (Post 469009)
sweets, sweetie,....your lack of tolerance for other people's way of life is sickening,......
it takes all types my friend,....all types,....

i wish i were closer, so i could help you pack your bags

YOU FUCKING ROCK SAVANNAH!!! I COULDN'T BRING MYSELF TO SAY IT.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 468979)
Right, My argument is full of generalizations, mine. Am I the one saying that all Americans are ignorant, dumb, liars? Am I the one basing my whole argument solely on my experiences with people in America, and not taking anything else into account? No, thats you. You are the one being incredibly ignorant and dumb for saying such things about the 300,000,000+ people living in America. Maybe all the people you have met were liars and cheats and everything else, but have you personally met all of the people living in America? Have you talked to them all and learned all about there opinions and views? No, and just because you have been to 46 of the states doesn't mean you can say such thing about a whole entire ****in nation.
You are generalizing, plain and simple

Once again, you misread my post, because I didn't say all Americans, I said most of them. You might be thinking that myself discriminating against Americans is the same as someone discriminating against peoples of different race, and religion. But, to be honest, I'm relentingly taking this view, not unrelentingly. I don't automatically hate all Americans, simply because they're American, and to be honest, if I saw a thread where someone was impuning a whole race, or religion, I would be pretty pissed off. So let me clarify - I'm taking the stance that, unless a situation is seen as a problem, then the problem can't be rectified. I see a very deep, very transparent problem with many places I have seen in America. But, go on and believe there's nothing wrong, and believe that all those people who are unrelentingly pro-America are the ones who are right, and the only ones who should speak up.

Friday 04-13-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468911)
I hate this country all together, i'm moving to the UK

Hmm, I think you must have a rose-tinted view of the United Kingdom.

savannah 04-13-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 469030)
YOU FUCKING ROCK SAVANNAH!!! I COULDN'T BRING MYSELF TO SAY IT.


i just get so sick of people and their disdain for what they would considering 'rednecks',.....
you know,...most 'rednecks' mine the coal that keeps your house warm, they pave the roads that you like to drive on, the log the trees or lay the brick that build the houses you like to sit in while you spill your ignorant opinions of people you dont even understand on music message boards,....

also, i've found that most of these kids who like to spout off how much they hate america, have never even left the country,....

there's problems, and ignorance, everywhere,......travel alittle bit,....see how other people live,......

Predator 04-13-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 468984)
I'm 16, i can't vote my opinion doesn't matter because i'm still a kid.

Bull shit. You have as much power as I do. You have a girl in your class that doesn't know who Hitler is, fucking teach her. Sitting back and saying that your generation is ignorant and you can't do anything about it is stupid. Stand up and make a change. Teach people what you know. Attend protests. March in rallies. Those are things that you can do without voting.

By the way. Thank you Sweet Nothing. You have inspired me to make another thread. Use this forum to show a point that many don't see.

savannah 04-13-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 469039)
Bull shit. You have as much power as I do. You have a girl in your class that doesn't know who Hitler is, fucking teach her. Sitting back and saying that your generation is ignorant and you can't do anything about it is stupid. Stand up and make a change. Teach people what you know. Attend protests. March in rallies. Those are things that you can do without voting.


pred's right,.......

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friday (Post 469033)
Hmm, I think you must have a rose-tinted view of the United Kingdom.

What's wrong with the UK? I mean the cops their don't even carry guns...

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah (Post 469009)
sweets, sweetie,....your lack of tolerance for other people's way of life is sickening,......
it takes all types my friend,....all types,....

i wish i were closer, so i could help you pack your bags

Hmm, that's interesting, because I don't want to go anywhere. I didn't say that I would automatically be happy living somewhere else. I might be depressed, and seen as kind of a sick person, and I might be depressed anywhere else, but that doesn't take away my right to sit right here in America and voice my opinion. And I'm not just a bitter, twisted person. I honestly believe we can do better as a people, and it tears me up inside. I'm just as intolerant of intolerance as the next person, but that's regarding intolerance without any clear reason. I'm not saying that all Americans are automatically bad people, but I'm simply basing it off my own experience. Savannah, I'm glad for you, and you should feel blessed that you have an inability to see our flaws, but I'm not built like that, so I'll go ahead and voice what I feel is right.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 469039)
Bull shit. You have as much power as I do. You have a girl in your class that doesn't know who Hitler is, fucking teach her. Sitting back and saying that your generation is ignorant and you can't do anything about it is stupid. Stand up and make a change. Teach people what you know. Attend protests. March in rallies. Those are things that you can do without voting.

It's hard to teach someone who won't listen

bruise_violet 04-13-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 469044)
What's wrong with the UK? I mean the cops their don't even carry guns...

That's because (I THINK) you can only get a permit for hunting guns so gun crime isn't exactly at a peak in Britain, but we have the occasional stabbing, rape, drink driver and kidnapper, you know just to keep the newspapers interesting.

Funny, most people i know here are dying to get to America. Including my boyfriend.

Wayfarer 04-13-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 469047)
It's hard to teach someone who won't listen

Hard? Maybe. Impossible? No.

savannah 04-13-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 469046)
Hmm, that's interesting, because I don't want to go anywhere. I didn't say that I would automatically be happy living somewhere else. I might be depressed, and seen as kind of a sick person, and I might be depressed anywhere else, but that doesn't take away my right to sit right here in America and voice my opinion. And I'm not just a bitter, twisted person. I honestly believe we can do better as a people, and it tears me up inside. I'm just as intolerant of intolerance as the next person, but that's regarding intolerance without any clear reason. I'm not saying that all Americans are automatically bad people, but I'm simply basing it off my own experience. Savannah, I'm glad for you, and you should feel blessed that you have an inability to see our flaws, but I'm not built like that, so I'll go ahead and voice what I feel is right.

1) i wasnt talkin to you
2) its not that i'm blind to our flaws,....its that i see everywhere has flaws, and imo, at the end of the day, i'd still rather live here than anywhere else in the world,....
3) i'm not asking you to stop voiceing what you feel is right,....but shut up long enough to think of what you can do about it, instead of just spouting blame and hate

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruise_violet (Post 469050)
That's because (I THINK) you can only get a permit for hunting guns so gun crime isn't exactly at a peak in Britain, but we have the occasional stabbing, rape, drink driver and kidnapper, you know just to keep the newspapers interesting.

Funny, most people i know here are dying to get to America. Including my boyfriend.


i'm not sure how it is now,....BUT when i was there a few years ago, you could only keep your guns at the range,.......
and i thought the bobbies started carring guns,......
and most of the europeans i met were dying to come to america as well

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruise_violet (Post 469050)
That's because (I THINK) you can only get a permit for hunting guns so gun crime isn't exactly at a peak in Britain, but we have the occasional stabbing, rape, drink driver and kidnapper, you know just to keep the newspapers interesting.

Funny, most people i know here are dying to get to America. Including my boyfriend.

That's everyday life here, and tell you're boy friend not to move to the south, The Northeast sounds about right for a lad straight from the UK

adidasss 04-13-2008 04:24 PM

America is the greatest country on Earth and you should all thank your lucky stars to have had the privilege of being born there.

...fucking ingrates.

sleepy jack 04-13-2008 04:25 PM

Rich=/=great.

sweet_nothing 04-13-2008 04:28 PM

America's not that rich compared to other countries like England or Switzerland, plus our economy going to hell fast

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-13-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 469073)
America's not that rich compared to other countries like England or Switzerland, plus are economy going to hell fast

And also the cost of living is much higher in those countries.


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