Artistic Statement? (effect, quote, Ching, Computer)

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

how so?

he couldn't just take a picture because people see pictures all the time. big deal. its the idea that you go into the art gallery and actually see the dog starving in front of you. the very idea that the dog was chained up in an art gallery is enough for it to be cruelty, just seeing a picture of some starving dog on the street is "sad", but not "cruelty"... so no one gets uppity about it and the artist doesn't get his point across

HOW is he being a hypocrite? Are you pretending to be stupid?

He is trying to show how no one cares about a starving dog so he, himself, starves a dog? I can think of a hundred other ways to get across a similar message. How about he invites people to an animal shelter to show off all the animals there?

Anything can be ****ing art these days. Ridiculous. Let's slaughter some babies and called it anti abortionist.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

He is trying to show how no one cares about a starving dog so he, himself, starves a dog?

He's part of everyone.

Duke Of Slander · 04-14-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

HOW is he being a hypocrite? Are you pretending to be stupid?

He is trying to show how no one cares about a starving dog so he, himself, starves a dog? I can think of a hundred other ways to get across a similar message. How about he invites people to an animal shelter to show off all the animals there?

Anything can be ****ing art these days. Ridiculous. Let's slaughter some babies and called it anti abortionist.

Here's the thing though. Now I know you worked in a animal shelter so put that bias aside, dumb your IQ down 40 points and see it from this perspective.

You see picture of dogs in animal shelters starving. Its "sad." You don't do ****.

Now you see these pictures and are angry that he could do this for such a dog, you join a facebook group or whatever to shut him down. But wait. We missed the point a little.

He PURPOSELY wanted to bring this issue to attention, I'm not agreeing with his methods, but we certainly wouldn't be arguing over this **** if he just took some rich folks into an animal shelter now would we?

He made a martyr of this dog that was seen as a rat and now everyone is riled about it. Maybe, just maybe-and I'm going out on a limb here. Maybe we should take this message and not waste our time with petitions or facebook groups, and actually help out these animals not that we're aware.

2 cents from someone who can't sleep and seeing the bigger picture.

sleepy jack · 04-14-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke Of Slander

Here's the thing though. Now I know you worked in a animal shelter so put that bias aside, dumb your IQ down 40 points and see it from this perspective.

You see picture of dogs in animal shelters starving. Its "sad." You don't do ****.

Now you see these pictures and are angry that he could do this for such a dog, you join a facebook group or whatever to shut him down. But wait. We missed the point a little.

He PURPOSELY wanted to bring this issue to attention, I'm not agreeing with his methods, but we certainly wouldn't be arguing over this **** if he just took some rich folks into an animal shelter now would we?

He made a martyr of this dog that was seen as a rat and now everyone is riled about it. Maybe, just maybe-and I'm going out on a limb here. Maybe we should take this message and not waste our time with petitions or facebook groups, and actually help out these animals not that we're aware.

2 cents from someone who can't sleep and seeing the bigger picture.

A few major problems with your post.

1. She mentioned nothing about joining a facebook group.
2. Even the-Starving-Artless who was arguing the same point admitted to not knowing the artists intent.
3. You don't think it's a bit messed up to make a martyr of an consenting animal?

bruise_violet · 04-14-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke Of Slander

Here's the thing though. Now I know you worked in a animal shelter so put that bias aside, dumb your IQ down 40 points and see it from this perspective.

You see picture of dogs in animal shelters starving. Its "sad." You don't do ****.

Now you see these pictures and are angry that he could do this for such a dog, you join a facebook group or whatever to shut him down. But wait. We missed the point a little.

He PURPOSELY wanted to bring this issue to attention, I'm not agreeing with his methods, but we certainly wouldn't be arguing over this **** if he just took some rich folks into an animal shelter now would we?

He made a martyr of this dog that was seen as a rat and now everyone is riled about it. Maybe, just maybe-and I'm going out on a limb here. Maybe we should take this message and not waste our time with petitions or facebook groups, and actually help out these animals not that we're aware.

2 cents from someone who can't sleep and seeing the bigger picture.

I was not the one to join a facebook petition, what the hell is that going to do? HOW can you possibly make a martyr of a dog who does not even know what a martyr is?

If this was a starving child from Africa people would be reacting very differently.

He is only adding to the problem. Why not show the dog at his worst then make him better? Poor dog died with no dignity.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-14-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

He is only adding to the problem. Why not show the dog at his worst then make him better? Poor dog died with no dignity.

actually, I have read that the dog did not die, but was in fact released by the art gallery after the exhibit was done. I don't know for sure - but neither do you know for sure that it died, either, I believe.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 06:26 PM

I like how that randomly makes taking a starving dog a big time theft from an art exhibit.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 06:27 PM

'artist' said dog didn't want to eat anyway so was definitely going to die whether he starved him or not...

whatever, I have seen dogs about to die and were rescued. This man is no artist, he is a torturer.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

This man is no artist

See page 2 of this thread.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-13-2008, 06:29 PM

its art, whether you like it or not

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bruise_violet we became a carcass! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 384	'artist' said dog didn't want to eat anyway so was definitely going to die whether he starved him or not... whatever, I have seen dogs about to die and were rescued. This man is no artist, he is a torturer. __________________ in love with the stumps, in love with the bleeding! in love with the pain that you now feel...

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~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I like how that randomly makes taking a starving dog a big time theft from an art exhibit.

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~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	its art, whether you like it or not