Artistic Statement? (member, quote, Hang, Computer)

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-13-2008, 07:44 PM

you are equating a group of dead human babies to one dying dog, and you are calling me illogical?

and i'm not trying to be "internet controversial", ethan.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

you are equating a group of dead human babies to one dying dog, and you are calling me illogical?

and i'm not trying to be "internet controversial", ethan.

what can i say, i like dogs.

lol ethan <3

sleepy jack · 04-13-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

you are equating a group of dead human babies to one dying dog, and you are calling me illogical?

"Taking a life to prove taking a life is counterproductive." Counter-productivity is a pretty shitty way to get a point across since no matter how hard to take extreme it's hypocritical. That is why another way to illustrate the point would actually have been more effective because you're not doing the same thing you're condemning.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-13-2008, 07:54 PM

yes... but if people see or hear about a starving dog in an art gallery, or hear about all this "animal cruelty" uproar about it, if they actually cared about the welfare of animals they would realize that animals are starving in the city they live in (most likely) - and then may do something about it. It's not counter-productive because he isn't catching and starving all the dogs he can find... just making a point.

the dog was already starving. he didn't make it starve any more than it already was, just moved it from one place to another.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

the dog was already starving. he didn't make it starve any more than it already was, just moved it from one place to another.

and denied it access to food.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

yes... but if people see or hear about a starving dog in an art gallery, or hear about all this "animal cruelty" uproar about it, if they actually cared about the welfare of animals they would realize that animals are starving in the city they live in (most likely) - and then may do something about it. It's not counter-productive because he isn't catching and starving all the dogs he can find... just making a point.

the dog was already starving. he didn't make it starve any more than it already was, just moved it from one place to another.

but why not try to save it? that would be so much better?

it's ok, the starving heartless.

sleepy jack · 04-13-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

yes... but if people see or hear about a starving dog in an art gallery, or hear about all this "animal cruelty" uproar about it, if they actually cared about the welfare of animals they would realize that animals are starving in the city they live in (most likely) - and then may do something about it. It's not counter-productive because he isn't catching and starving all the dogs he can find... just making a point.

Doing something like gathering up the bodies of dogs that died of starvation would've been just effective or just gathering up starving dogs and taking care of them but letting the public see how bad of a condition they're in would've also proved the point nicely. But the difference between those is you're not contributing to the thing you're against.

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the dog was already starving. he didn't make it starve any more than it already was, just moved it from one place to another.

He moved it from a place where the dog could scavenge and be free to being tied up in an gallery. Those are quite different scenarios.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-13-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

and denied it access to food.

and all the people sitting in front of their computer monitors crying about animal cruelty are neglecting the starving animals in their very own cities just as much. THEY are the hypocrites.

don't tell me the all the 117,757 people in the facebook "petition" volunteer at an animal shelter, or even do a thing to help the situation

why not try to save it? to make a point.

lol, starving heartless

people should stop making a big deal of things such as this unless they are willing to try and fix the problem.

besides, one starving dog in an art gallery is a huge uproar, but people in poverty in your own cities who go unnoticed aren't cried about to this degree.

sleepy jack · 04-13-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

and all the people sitting in front of their computer monitors crying about animal cruelty are neglecting the starving animals in their very own cities just as much. THEY are the hypocrites.

Yes and while we're sitting on our computers we have a starving animal staked right next to us. Statements like that aren't really going to prove anything I found my cat sitting in a dumpster and I've had it for a long time since then. How is that not helping?

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people should stop making a big deal of things such as this unless they are willing to try and fix the problem.

besides, one starving dog in an art gallery is a huge uproar, but people in poverty in your own cities who go unnoticed aren't cried about to this degree.

You keep making poor comparisons. The homeless aren't staked to the ground and not allowed to eat or drink are they? Neither are the animals. This man did something to interfere with the dog, that's the problem.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless

and all the people sitting in front of their computer monitors crying about animal cruelty are neglecting the starving animals in their very own cities just as much. THEY are the hypocrites.

don't tell me the all the 117,757 people in the facebook "petition" volunteer at an animal shelter, or even do a thing to help the situation

why not try to save it? to make a point.

lol, starving heartless

people should stop making a big deal of things such as this unless they are willing to try and fix the problem.

besides, one starving dog in an art gallery is a huge uproar, but people in poverty in your own cities who go unnoticed aren't cried about to this degree.

well the difference is I TRIED to make a difference I worked in an animal shelter unpaid for a year and a half.

starving heartless is quite witty isn't it.

Do you care about anything? Who are you?
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04-13-2008, 07:44 PM	#41 (permalink)
~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	you are equating a group of dead human babies to one dying dog, and you are calling me illogical? and i'm not trying to be "internet controversial", ethan.

04-13-2008, 07:54 PM	#44 (permalink)
~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	yes... but if people see or hear about a starving dog in an art gallery, or hear about all this "animal cruelty" uproar about it, if they actually cared about the welfare of animals they would realize that animals are starving in the city they live in (most likely) - and then may do something about it. It's not counter-productive because he isn't catching and starving all the dogs he can find... just making a point. the dog was already starving. he didn't make it starve any more than it already was, just moved it from one place to another.