The Unfan

McCann, Dice, Pooles, and that one boy from Florida?

Also, ABC attacks pedophiles for using their right to free speech on the net.

I am defending pedophilia, yes. I believe someone should be free to think whatever they want to think. The thought in and of itself does no harm. No, I'm not a pedophile by any stretch of the word. I like my women much older.

Sure, but on the other hand I'm sure most pedophiles don't abduct children.

Yes it is.

Strangely enough I don't think actually having possession of child porn should be criminally punishable. I believe in a free market and a right to sell, buy, and own property(/ies) you have ownership of. That is to say if someone rightfully paid for child pornography they should have the right to own, sell, or do whatever they want to do with it as long as they're not harming a non-consenting party.

On the other hand, I agree that the acts that go into making child pornography are very wrong. The child is not old enough to legally consent to acts which may be considered pornographic, and penetrating an underdeveloped child will cause bodilly harm. On the other hand, if the law stated a 9 year old were old enough to consent than I wouldn't look at a 9 year old consenting to pornographic acts as necesarilly bad or wrong.

I think I may have just officially gotten exiled from the MB community.

bruise_violet

How the hell can you say it is OK to be in possession of child porn? you are saying it is OK to rape small children?

OK you say the method of making childporn is wrong but it's still ok? You seem like an extremely messed up person who is trying to have such extreme views because you are such a deeply intellectual person, give me a ****ing break.

I already said although i was 17 I find men looking at me deeply disturbing. So your 'logic' in your last statement is BS.

Pedophilia and other sexual crimes are rarely about wanking or sexual enjoyment. It's about power, control, being generally disturbed amongst other things.

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The Unfan

Having a picture or a movie of something is different than actually doing it. I mean, by your logic you can't own a movie where someone gets murdered because its the same as murdering someone. See how absurd that is? Also, I never said rape is OK. Rape is never OK because it harms a non-consenting party.

Yes, given the right culture and society it wouldn't be wrong. We don't view 7 year olds as old enough to consent but if there were a culture that viewed 7 year olds as adults and capable of consenting I wouldn't consider it contextually wrong for someone to have consensual sex with a 7 year old.

Thanks for calling me a deeply intellectual person.

Moot point. We're talking about the social and legal points therein, not the psychology behind it.

bruise_violet

Oh christ almighty

People in movies are not actually murdered (unless you are a weirdo who watches snuff) did you never realise this? They do this thing called 'acting', it is when one pretends to do things, you know?

I think in Italy the age of consent is 14, and I find that shocking, because I know that I was a twat when I was 14, as are most people, and radically different at even 15, so I think 14 is far too young.

Are you telling me that if it was legal you would have sex with a 7 year old child? you are going to hell.

Oh and I was being SARCASTIC when I said you were deeply intellectual. In case you didn't realise.

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Chronotub

the kids in child porn are real kids, they hurt to make the porn, hence why child porn is illigal, the same way rape and snuff films are, at least in the uk, I'm assuming they are in america

and if we lived in such a society people wouldn't give a **** about child porn or if someone is a pedo

but we don't live in such a society, so it's irelivent really

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The Unfan

Should it be illegal to look at rotten.com ?
A cultural difference that we should be tolerant of.

No, I prefer older women. However if it were legal and she consented I wouldn't view it as legally wrong.
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Barnard17

If I'm not mistaken in America is it classed as a paedophilia related crime to be in possession of pornography in which an 18+ parades themselves as being beneath the age of consent?

Rach, I think you need to slow down and read what the Unfan is saying more thoroughly. He's not saying he would rape a 7 year old child, he's talking about the differences caused by cultural and social upbringing.

Another example of the difference in maturity caused by society is your reference to 14 being a silly age of consent. Being 14 isn't what makes you a dizzy moron, the fact that society caters to the idea that a 14 year old SHOULD be a dizzy moron is. Only a few hundred years, 14 year olds were responsible for themselves and considered eligible for marriage. Look at Romeo and Juliet; the character of Juliet was a 13 year old. She's portrayed as a determined person who well knows their own mind. Nobody bats an eyelash to the idea that a 13 year old should be getting mixed up in all the sort of crap she gets up to because at the time children were raised in such a way that by the time they were 13 they could handle themselves.

I do however take contention with the suggestion that paying for paedophillic pornography is a victimless crime. Though simple possession is a different matter, to pay for it is passively encouraging the crime by supporting the people who commit them.

The Unfan

No, actually. There's plenty of pr0ns where the chick is playing the role of a high school cheerleader, and a few where they're being banged by the babysitter.

Barnard17

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to **** horses, there's still plenty of prons of people doing it...

jibber

I REALLY hope you're playing devil's advocate here and that you're not actually this obtuse, this unfeeling, and most of all, this much of a f*cking idiot. You don't believe that it is wrong to own child porn, yet you do not condone the making of child porn. do you not understand the simple concept of supply and demand? Do you think that if there weren't perverts out there who want to jack off to a young girl getting brutally raped (often after being sold into slavery) people would be making those videos? And your reference to watching people get killed in movies is ridiculous and completely off topic. like someone else suggested, none of the actors in those movies actually died. The girls and boys in those child porn videos are being physically and emotionally abused. They are being brutally raped, they have very often been kidnapped from their homes and families and sold like an object for the sole use of gratifying the sick and twisted vision of those pedophiles that you seem to sympathize with so much. You moan about the poor misunderstood pedophilles who have never hurt a child themselves, only watched them get beaten and abused on their tvs or computer screens. It's the same as if they had been standing in the room and egging it on. I think you need to take a hard look at your values and morality. Better yet, go to a country like india, thailand, cambodia, where girls younger than 6 years old are sold as sex slaves and raped day in and day out, often in front of a camera for those videos you dont think are harmful. Why not have a conversation with those kids after the fact, why not visit an orphanage full of girls who are now on a death sentence after contracting HIV in a brothel after being kidnapped off the street and forced into slavery. Have a young daughter? sister? niece? hell younger brother, nefew, son? Think about how you would feel if you knew they had been raped, tortured, abused in front of a video camera, and then some dirty old man was jacking off to the suffering of that child. Oh that's right, if it doesn't affect you personally you can't see anything wrong with it.

by the way, your post made me physically sick to my stomach.

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