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Old 03-30-2008, 02:57 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It's true, in a sense because nature is too disordered to generate perfect replicas. But just because it's counter to nature doesn't make it bad.
Counter to nature is bad in the church's eyes. I think that was the original point. Maybe.

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nature is too disordered to make perfect replicas? can you give me some sort of fact to back up this claim? because.. i might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that cells replicate themselves all the time. also... can you disprove the contention that my heart and your heart are any more different to one another than a human clone would be to a regular joe?
Everytime dna replicates itself it changes slightly from it's original form. Meaning not exact replica.
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
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What makes you so sure that the government runs things now? (with regard to the church?)

I mean evangelicals for years stayed away from politics because it was corrupted.
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's true. I think most people just automatically assume that in this day and age of technological achievement, we're smarter than we used to be. However, the average person is less smart than the average person of 50 years ago, and the illiteracy rate in this country has jumped from roughly 1%, to nearly 20% over the past 50 years.

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What makes you so sure that the government runs things now? (with regard to the church?)

I mean evangelicals for years stayed away from politics because it was corrupted.
That's how conservative politics have recaptured America. Regardless of how great the economy was in the 1990's, people were apalled by Clinton's behavior, and immorality. I really think that Christians all over the country just took it upon themselves to elect whoever was running as R in the year 2000, regardless of how braindead he was.

That was the message in the early 1990's, when abortion became such a huge issue. Republicans took the moral stance and moral approach. Many people feel it was their duty to vote Republican on account of that issue alone, to be good citizens and good Christians. Then Clinton comes along with all his sexcapades in the late 90's, and it was the nail in the coffin of the Democratic party. David Duke could have won president in 2000 for the R's. Now, you've got George W. Bush and Sean Hannity constantly thumping the bible, and making the good Christians feel like voting Democrat is a sheer act of betrayal, and sacrilege. That, and you know they're in bed with the major religious leaders. Now you've got John McCain meeting with the most despicable, apocalyptic-forecasting, homophobic religious leader, that guy in San Antonio, what's his name.

I know that was pretty anti-climactic, sorry.
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's true. I think most people just automatically assume that in this day and age of technological achievement, we're smarter than we used to be. However, the average person is less smart than the average person of 50 years ago, and the illiteracy rate in this country has jumped from roughly 1%, to nearly 20% over the past 50 years.
I thought it was worse than that but I was not sure if was that much or more. Thanks for that.


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That's how conservative politics have recaptured America. Regardless of how great the economy was in the 1990's, people were apalled by Clinton's behavior, and immorality. I really think that Christians all over the country just took it upon themselves to elect whoever was running as R in the year 2000, regardless of how braindead he was.

That was the message in the early 1990's, when abortion became such a huge issue. Republicans took the moral stance and moral approach. Many people feel it was their duty to vote Republican on account of that issue alone, to be good citizens and good Christians. Then Clinton comes along with all his sexcapades in the late 90's, and it was the nail in the coffin of the Democratic party. David Duke could have won president in 2000 for the R's. Now, you've got George W. Bush and Sean Hannity constantly thumping the bible, and making the good Christians feel like voting Democrat is a sheer act of betrayal, and sacrilege. That, and you know they're in bed with the major religious leaders. Now you've got John McCain meeting with the most despicable, apocalyptic-forecasting, homophobic religious leader, that guy in San Antonio, what's his name.

I know that was pretty anti-climactic, sorry.
I think Americans are finally pissed off enough that things will start changing. I am so sick of the same non believer talk.
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