Did America really put a man on the moon?
 

This subject fascinates me.
Did they or didn't they and if not...why pretend otherwise?

Discuss...

Why would they fake it? To beat the Russians and get them back for Sputnik and boost the American populace's very low morale.

Yeah they did...

Yeah, they did what?

oh sorry fake it, it didn't happen unitl later appolo 13 was probably the first real try.

if they faked it why haven't they created new footage of people on the moon? Considering how far technology has come since 1969, by now we should be seeing astronauts fighting aliens or somthing.

we should have had a man on mars by now, If they were able to send a man to the moon that long ago why can't we go further, have we gotten dumber?

Because Mars isn't any harder to get to than the moon right?

We don't need to go to Mars and wastefully spend money, on 20,000 furnaces to heat 1 room.

We got to quit being neat: Help the starving people of the world, then we can worry about colonizing other planets

It's just as hard to go to the Moon as it is to go to Mars, if the radiation levels outside the Van Allen belt make it impossible to do either.

what could a person do on mars that a robot hasn't already done?
besides make footprints and stick a flag in the ground...

I think Total Recall warned us all against trying to colonize mars anyways.

There's been six supposed different trips to the moon where people have gone on them, granted the last one was in 72 but I think back then if it was just as easy to make it to Mars they would've been sending people there after the first landing instead.

of course we put a man on the moon all the arguments that the conspiracy nut-jobs say can be scientifically disproved
Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV

The point I'm making is and I may be wrong, but if my memory serves me well, then no human being can survive for very long once they pass the Van Allen belts.
The argument is (according to sceptics) that no human has been that far out in space. If they had...they'd be dead.

Yeah the Van Allen belt is full of deadly radiation and if you pass through it, you well, die. Supposedly the Apollo engineers knew of the radiation and prepared the space ship so it would be protected from them and planned to fly the ship through the thinnest parts of the belts and fly through them quickly.

So is space.

I'm not even very sure what happened or if it did or not because it's never been something I've been too interested in. I'm just stating what they taught us in school to you.

I'm no expert either and I won't be rushing to wikipedia to find the "facts".
I recall someone questioned the use of cameras on the moon and the person pointed out that the radiation from an airport screening thingy (a minimal amount by comparison) can wipe the film in the camera clean.
When it was put to NASA, they responded (apparently, can't back this up) that they wrapped the camera in tin foil! :laughing:
If that's true, then someone is taking the piss.

Its a pretty crazy case. Cause there is evidence showing that it was a fake. The flag was flapping as if in the wind..and as we know..there is no air in the atmosphere on the moon. And the Cold War was just a constant battle of saying..Im better now...No, im better now and such. The Cold War in retrospect is actually pretty funny.

Who knows the astronaut holding the flag pole could have been wiggling it.



Pen and Teller did an episode of Bullshit! (ha! i still remember how to get past the filter) on conspiracy theories and interviewed a guy that wrote a [shoddy] book about this very topic. Either way America has nukes and is gonna get dem tourists.

I really don't think it would be possible to cover that kind of thing up,
I mean, NASA scientists are some of the most intelligent people on
Earth and I would take their word over some crack-pot conspiracy
theorist any day.

I do think they did, I just think some stuff was kinda weird..and honestly really couldn't even care less if they had or not haha.

i think it was faked

who cares

not like anyone really wants to go to the moon anyways

of course. there's nothing i would want to do less than have a chance to see the earth from outer space. that's just gee a y ***

The lounge ought to be renamed "Why you hate the government/Conspiracy Theories"

i'll vote for that and lend a hand stuffin the ballot box

win

no human can survive for long in the van allen belt, we're talking around 2 weeks, the astronauts were only in it for about half an hour, the hull of the spacecraft also provided some protection

the craft that returned from the moon showed signs of being exposed to radiation, as would be expected if it had passed through the van allen belt

the flag was on an pole shaped like an upside down L to hold it up, as they drive the poll into the ground it will make the poll shake causing ripples it the flag, with no air risistence to stop it this would last much longer than on earth, later in the video you can see the flag remains perfectly still even when the astronauts are moving around it, this would only happen in a vacum

everything in the video is what you would expect if it was filmed in a vacuum under low gravity


also it was the hight of the cold war, russia had spies in nasa, if it was a hoax it would have been of the front page of pravda

well someone did, cus they left stuff behind

uhh....not really, actually no, not at all. To YOU looking back it may seem like that, but if you do some further research you'll actually discover that aside from the huge number of legitimate threats flying back and forth, the cold war was mainly about the entire world taking a side (east or west) and aligning themselves with the two powers. Vietnam war, korean war, the war in afghanistan against russia, all were wars DIRECTLY related to the cold war. oh, and if you want to figure out how close the us was to being nuked, look into the bay of pigs incident.

I've never been to america to check if wtc happend

numerous independent experts from all over the world have confermed they are there, also if if it was faked hundreds of people would know, why haven't they come forward?

No, I mean sure we're able to, but is it worth it? Of course we put a man on the moon in 69, but after that first initial wave of enthusiasm for "hey gee whiz we're on the moon" it got boring. It's not like the 1600's where we discovered new continents with plenty of gold and native civilizations to rape, it was a bunch of things in space with lots of rocks. All in all, going to Mars isn't very sexy. The cost to put a man on Mars would be astronomical(pun pun pun) and quite frankly without us racing evil communists to get there, why bother.

Moon Landing conspiracy theorists are on the bottom of the conspiracy theorist ladder, right next to Pearl Harbor conspiracy theorists.

No, I'm pretty sure that title goes to the Holocaust conspiracy theorists.

Damnit. Ok second to last.

I just cannot imagine they had the technology back then to even get a rocket higher than the clouds let alone all the way to the moon.

I saw a television program ages ago and in it a group of guys faked the moon landing and it looks amazing, it was shot out in the Nevada desert, they analised the 'real' video and found a number on one of the rocks apparently, likened to that of the numbers often found on movie props... I'll have a look for a link later if this hasn't already been mentioned.

It was totally to get one over on the russians.

The moon looks dead boring, literally DEAD boring and dark :( I bet it isn't all pretty and shiny like it pretends it is.

Rash is back :O

could easily have been caused by a flaw when developing the film

so why did the russians go allong with it? they had spies in nasa and were tracking the space craft, there's no way they could have hidden it from russia