jwb

it doesn't need to be out of necessity. But there are only certain animals you should be allowed to hunt. Obviously killing endangered species etc should not be allowed.

I think it should be for a reason though. Whether it's the meat or the hide or just to cull the numbers.

the irony being that me having a phone makes me much less likely to read a book

jwb

To be fair to Batlord, he was responding to me. I said people who eat meat don't give much of a ****. And I belief see that.

You might give a **** in theory. On paper. But not in reality. Or at least not enough of a **** to sacrifice a luxury food item.

The anger Chula and TH are displaying at that is just the cognitive dissonance of thinking of yourself as an animal lover and then realizing you've sacrificed **** all to help any animals.

To be clear that describes me too. I kind of give a **** when I see Peta style videos on animal suffering but not enough to rearrange my diet. It doesn't mean you don't care at all just that you care more about sticking to the foods you're used to.

I don't see the distinction you are making between culturally reinforced values and morality.

Chula Vista

I'm only a single person. Me not eating meat will not accomplish a damn thing in the big picture except maybe giving me some sort of superiority complex that allows me to give meat eaters ****.

I got 3 dogs. All rescues.
My conscience is clear.

My anger is at some forum dude trying to tell me what my morals should be.

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The Batlord

I think avoiding self-cannibalism is good actually.

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Chula Vista

You ever read King's 'Survivor Type'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_Type

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

jwb

"I have 3 dogs and all of them are rescues" is a hilarious retort. I'm sure you are the type who mentions that every time you introduce them. Every so called animal lover has at least one animal they've "rescued" and usually it seems like the owner is getting much more satisfaction from the arrangement than the animal is.

You are complicit in the industrialized slaughter of countless animals every day. You might be powerless to stop the system from existing, but nobody forces you to participate. You don't have to eat that hamburger. It's a simple matter of taste that has so many so called animal lovers not even committed enough to the cause to not eat the flesh of innocent murdered little animals. Shame!

Good thing you went down to the local animal shelter and purchased yourself a couple get-out-of-jail-free cards. Exactly how many hamburgers does owning 3 rescue dogs license you to eat?

SGR

What was that movie that got big 15 years ago or so? Food Inc i think?

Even though I don't plan on giving up meat, I think we should certainly treat the animals we slaughter for food more humanely. The way many of them are treated on factory farms is just disgusting. Only problem is that it would probably cost more, but I think I'd honestly be okay with that. If we ever get to the point where we can perfectly (or at least 95-99%) replicate meat in nutritional value and taste synthetically then I don't really see any argument to continue slaughtering animals for food purposes. We'd still need to cull them for overpopulation and ****, but not for food.

Chula Vista

You got a beef JWB?
Your pretty consistent pissing and moaning about me around here is getting annoying as hell.

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

SGR

Fitting, since we're talking about the ethics of killing animals for food.

Chula Vista

Much more my speed.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”