Originally Posted by adidasss

Just a medium sized rant:

Ok so I'm on my 4th employee here in Malaysia, first I hired a trainee fresh out of college practically, seeing as how difficult it is for such people to find jobs with no experience (I was also miraculously hired straight out of college so wanted to give something back to the universe), turned out a bust, no effort, very passive, loads of mistakes, little to no prospect of improvement. Had to let her go after two probation periods. Second batch I said, no more trainees thanks, I'd rather not bother training someone from scratch, let's go for someone more experienced, so I hired someone with 10 years of experience (as a senior) and a medium experience person with some 5-6 years of experience. The junior person did her very best, was super professional, showed up on time, was willing to learn. She had some problems, but made up for it with effort. The senior person was the total opposite, showed up late, wasn't at her desk for hours at a time, kept receiving packages from online shopping at work, didn't finish her tasks on time, left for vacation without finishing or transferring her tasks, was making a lot of mistakes and didn't really know how to do things independently, even though she was supposed to be a senior (and her salary was of a senior). So I let her go after 2 probationary periods (she is now suing us for wrongful dismissal even though she was on a probation period, lol).

Then the junior quit because she found a better job and I had to find a replacement. I didn't feel like going through another recruitment process so the MD suggested someone who was already there, from another department that moved away and now they were struggling to find work for her and he didn't feel it was right to let her go so soon after hiring her. I was a bit wary since this was a person who was already on a permanent basis so no probationary period but I interviewed her and she seemed enthusiastic and smart.

3 months later, we are having problems. She is making stupid mistakes that I keep having to correct (and she never says ok, sorry about that, I'll make sure to pay more attention in the future). But a bigger problem for me and something I just can't understand is the work ethic. We are all forced to work from home so obviously it's not the same as being in the office but we are also all equipped with computers and messenger apps (Teams). So obviously, if I send you a message or an e-mail and you respond several hours later, I know you were not at your laptop working. This happened more than once (and of course, she never says, sorry I was [invent an obvious lie but at least try to justify it]).

Now, I don't want to be an *******, so I don't want to say anything about it for now, but I'm just wondering, what kind of person behaves like this? Not just the last one, but 3 out of 4. If you're hired on a good job, with a good salary in a good and stable company, isn't your primary focus to do everything possible to keep that job? I don't ask for much, really, just that someone shows they're at least trying and are taking things seriously. I just don't understand what could possibly be going through their minds. If my boss calls me I make sure I am available morning noon and night. Why? Because I not so much like my job as much as my salary and the roof over my head and I know that finding another job like this especially in these times is going to be extremely difficult, so I make sure that I do everything in my power for them to have a great difficulty in letting me go.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't think/act the same way. I thought maybe they come from well off families but it's not the case.

I am mystified.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I was called upon by the muses for greatness.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I'm bald, ja.

Originally Posted by Anteater

That's because even though everyone wants a job where they can Zoom in, do everything digitally, net a high salary and not have to get crammed into a cubicle somewhere...they still don't like the fact that they actually have to spend time working under supervision. People are fundamentally lazy creatures who like to do things on their terms or not at all. They want all the perks of being the owner of a company but without any of the investment or actual risk that went into creating the business. And privately owned companies aren't offering stakes in the pie unless you are being brought on early on one of those startups that got past a few seed rounds.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

And any of you venture capitalists in America want access to the capitalist apparatus that already exists to give you preferred access to the economy like a road allows you to drive but you don't want to admit the existence of this capitalist apparatus cause it would make you look less like someone taking a serious risk and more like someone fulfilling beaurocratic hoops.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I was called upon by the muses for greatness.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I'm bald, ja.

Originally Posted by Anteater

People can fight over "preferred access" to the economy all they want, but in most places it just comes down to marketing if you have something worth selling.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by elphenor

the 2nd part of this doesn't necessarily support the first

and the idea of "lazy" here doesn't hold up to much scrutiny

people will often cease to think of "work" when they're performing a creative task under their own control...even if the task requires a large amount of effort

what people seem to have an aversion to is authority and monotony

Originally Posted by elphenor

life is not "supposed" to be anything

however typically it's a lot nicer for the master

I don't care about happiness I want the boot off our necks...I believe in Freedom