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Old 12-15-2014, 07:13 PM   #17541 (permalink)
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There's many different reasons and explanations for depression. There's an irregularity of certain hormones (I think that's the right terminology for dopamine, seratonin, etc) caused by bipolar disorder. There's also other factors, most of which have to do with mental processes. It's easy for someone who's not depressed to roll their eyes and say "get over it". It's very different for the people who actually experience it. Depression is defined as the inability to cope with negative feelings and thoughts. Whether or not you think it's a big deal or if it's worth dwelling on has literally no significance whatsoever and it's harmfully insensitive for people like you to voice those opinions to people who are dealing with depression. As someone who has dealt with depression and has a family/had friends who responded to it in the way you have here I can tell you you're only making things worse.
you get it.

someone gets it.

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with depression i do understand that it's just some chemical imbalance in the brain but for whatever reason my gut still feels like telling depressed people to just snap out of it cause they're usually depressed over **** that isn't really that big of a deal to me. and even when it is a big deal i feel like there's no sense in dwelling on it..
it's really a tricky, unforgiving, ****ty thing.

yesterday I was alright. I was productive. I even laughed and smiled most of the day.

today I couldn't get out of bed until... about 5 o'clock. I managed to eat a little and do the dishes.

sometimes during the week, it's really difficult for me to get out of bed. It's difficult for me to maintain energy. Caffeine doesn't always help. It improves my mental state for a couple of hours, at least to the point where I'm productive, but some days I just can't deal with myself anymore for some reason.

but I get out of bed because it makes me money. there's little else that tempting or motivating in a basic way.

Not every day is like that. Sometimes a couple days pass and I'm ok, I can deal, I can talk to people, I'm not bothered by literally every ****ing nuance or seemingly rude glance. I don't think about things I should have forgotten.

I wish I felt like that every day, and I do try!! I try to keep my wits. I try so hard to push myself into whatever might make me happy for a few minutes but sometimes I find it more productive to cry for a while or sleep as long as possible.

strangely I have enough control over myself to not drink or take any strange medicine when I'm sad because I know it'll only make me worse.

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God you're lucky.
yeah, nothing more "lucky" than telling yourself to go take a shower for 7 hours and only being able to look at yourself in the mirror for a few seconds before deciding you just want to go back to bed.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:16 PM   #17542 (permalink)
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Depression is a real illness not something to be 'snapped out of'. I don't suffer from it myself but I know a few people who do.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:52 PM   #17543 (permalink)
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yeah, nothing more "lucky" than telling yourself to go take a shower for 7 hours and only being able to look at yourself in the mirror for a few seconds before deciding you just want to go back to bed.
Oh, man. That's the stuff.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:55 PM   #17544 (permalink)
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i tried to make it clear i wasn't saying to snap out of it. sorry if i made it worse. i'm not saying i don't feel bad for depressed people. i was just saying depressed people confuse me. i don't really have any answers for them cause i know most people who are depressed have told me the side effects for the drugs you can take aren't worth it.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:07 PM   #17545 (permalink)
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i tried to make it clear i wasn't saying to snap out of it. sorry if i made it worse. i'm not saying i don't feel bad for depressed people. i was just saying depressed people confuse me. i don't really have any answers for them cause i know most people who are depressed have told me the side effects for the drugs you can take aren't worth it.
most depressed people don't want you to feel bad for them, just to understand that just 'cause our brains are fucked up doesn't mean our entire lives are fucked up (usually - there are always exceptions to the rule).

psych meds have always been unkind to me, though I've been known to have a really good time with xanax.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:07 PM   #17546 (permalink)
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i tried to make it clear i wasn't saying to snap out of it. sorry if i made it worse. i'm not saying i don't feel bad for depressed people. i was just saying depressed people confuse me. i don't really have any answers for them cause i know most people who are depressed have told me the side effects for the drugs you can take aren't worth it.
There really isn't an answer to give someone. 99% of the time when you're depressed, you know exactly why and what to do about it (be more productive, be more sociable, don't pick your nose in public), and you know that for the most part that you're being irrational. But knowing the issue is meaningless when the entire problem is your uncontrollable inability to emotionally deal with it. Talking about it can actually make it worse, since now the depressed person is negatively comparing themselves to someone who may be better adjusted and wondering to themselves why the **** they can't be like So-And-So. Not to mention said better-adjusted person, whether intentionally or not, is coming off in your head like, "God, it's this ****ing simple, what the **** is wrong with you?"

Even talking to people just as screwed up as you doesn't really help. Neither of you are coming to any revelations, you're not saying anything the other doesn't already know, and it's not like you can both combine your uselessness into one functional human being. All you have are two people who are now aware that their new friend will be just as unreliable as themselves. And generally speaking, these "trauma bonding" conversations between two depressives, where they just talk about how ****ty they feel on a regular basis, are just about comparing scars rather than meaningful human connection, and often one-upping each other as to who is more worthy of pity, since depression goes hand in hand with self-absorption.
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are you a depressed person too then batlord?
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:50 PM   #17548 (permalink)
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Batlord seems more the manic depressive type.

Shit, I think I'm more manic depressive than anything.

When I'm up, I'm way way way up. I'm productive, charismatic, in love with the entire world, ready for anything.

When I'm down, I almost wish I was dead. It's like an insane crash from a terribly wonderful drug.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:11 PM   #17549 (permalink)
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I have a cankersore and I'm not drunk enough for the cognac to not burn the **** out of my lip on the way down.
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Depression runs deeply through my dad's side of the family. I haven't struggled with it yet, but it's only a matter of time. I come from a long line of black sheep.
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