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djchameleon · 03-09-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

We don't follow around non smokers around blowing smoke in their faces just cause we're smokers doesn't mean we are assh*les.

Btw im generalising it's not a direct attack on you.

It would be nice if you stayed in your little smoking areas but you smokers bitxh about that as well and just want to smoke anywhere. Of course most smokers are assholrs

Black Francis · 03-09-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Nobody cares? What about emissions requirements?

C'mon man you know what i mean, cigarettes are not the only harmful products we have created that was my point. and yea we do care about some things but other things we defend knowing they are just as bad as other things. you can't tell me cars and factories don't pollute the planet even with regulations all they do is lessen the damage done.

In fact harmful things are part of the economy now and so is the solution to those harmful things so every time we demonize a product for being bad for us while defending another product that is bad for us as well it seems a bit hypocritical, doesn't it?

**Janszoon** · 03-09-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

C'mon man you know what i mean, cigarettes are not the only harmful products we have created that was my point. and yea we do care about some things but other things we defend knowing they are just as bad as other things. you can't tell me cars and factories don't pollute the planet even with regulations all they do is lessen the damage done.

In fact harmful things are part of the economy now and so is the solution to those harmful things so every time we demonize a product for being bad for us while defending another product that is bad for us as well it seems a bit hypocritical, doesn't it?

I didn't say they don't create pollution. I was just disagreeing with your claim that no one cares about it.

LoathsomePete · 03-09-2014, 02:40 PM

Just out of curiosity, how much are you paying for your brand right now?

Trollheart · 03-09-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yep. One time I bumped a car in front of me at about 5 mph, and the other driver and I got out looked at our cars and determined there was no damage. Neither of us were injured. Everything was fine. Then a few days later he decided to sue me for $10,000 for an imaginary neck injury.

I'm guessing he met someone like this guy...

Black Francis · 03-09-2014, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Just out of curiosity, how much are you paying for your brand right now?

6.45$ for my Winston menthols

The Newports which are the popular brand here go for 7 or 7.50

i heard in New york Cigs are really expensive like 10$ per box i hope it doesn't come to that here.

Paul Smeenus · 03-09-2014, 02:55 PM

I'm sorry. I watched my mom become ravaged by cancer from the inside out. It was a horrible thing to witness. I saw my father lose 85% of his respiratory capacity. No sympathy. None.

Trollheart · 03-09-2014, 02:56 PM

I ****ign despise smoking (though not smokers, let's make the distinction shall we?) but I still hold the cigarette for my sister four times a day because she can't do so herself, and I don't think it's fair that she should be denied one of the few luxuries or vices remaining to her just cos I don't like smoking.

That said, I do think it'll be ironic if I die from cancer due to second-hand smoke, but what can you do? However, I do hate ignorant people like those who stand behind you at a bus stop and let their smoke blow into your face. I mean, if you're going to smoke, be a little considerate about it, you ignorant piece of ****.

One more thing: our govt (like most/all govts I expect) is forever whining about how they want people to give up smoking, but think about it: the loss of jobs and industry if that happened? They clearly DON'T want it to happen: imagine if one day every single smoker in Ireland gave it up forever? The chaos! The unemployment! The loss of revenue! So they pretend that they want people to stop smoking, in order to give them an excuse to put up the price of cigarettes and make more money for them in excise duty, knowing full well smokers will pay any price. Bastards. I really feel for smokers when that happens. And it happens every single budget.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 03-09-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Ikr? their like "Eww, i can't handle that stinky smoke for a couple of minutes, smoking should be banned" >_>

As if life revolves around them and their precious health, there is alot of things i wish wouldn't exist but they do, i hate ppl that wear stinky cologne but just because i think their cologne smells like crap i don't think they should outlaw their brand of cologne i just suck it up and deal with the weird smell.

If we put things in perspective there are alot of things in the world that are worst than dealing with the minor inconvenience of not liking cigarettes especially when you can avoid smokers and their designated areas but Noooo~ cigarettes and smokers are the scapegoat to appease their moral crusade against what is wrong with the world.

Also im all out of smokes and that's why im cranky. U_U

one of my college room mates always complained about smokers walkin on campus. im like bro, just slightly change your direction and avoid the smoke if its that big of a deal. i mean its smoke goin into the air, its not like ppl are confined to a closet with someone smokin a cig. you can smell it but its by no means suffocation lol.

i only really smoke now when i go on long car drives or when i drink every other wknd

Wpnfire · 03-09-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I really hate how expensive cigarettes have gotten and all this propaganda to demonize cigarettes and smokers.

As i recall in the 1940's and 50 the tobacco industry and the media shoved cigarettes down our throats to the point even Fred flinstone advertised Winston cigarettes and after hooking an entire generation on cigarettes now they demonize them and say cigarettes have cat pee in them.

it's like a dealer that sold you drugs and got you hooked on them now looking down on you and calling you a junkie. >_>

And those electronic cigarettes? ****IN PLZ i don't care if they will help me score with Jenny Mcarthy i want the harmful cigarettes that i smoke fully knowing they are bad for me.

if you are gonna raise a moral issue about the products we consume knowing full well they are not healthy for us why just single out cigarettes? why not demonize the candy industry giving diabetes to ppl? or the fast food industry for contributing to the obesity problem?

What a bunch of bull. I'm sorry, but eating candy and fast food is not 100% proven to cause diabetes or obesity. You can have it everyday for a year and as long as you exercise, there's no problem.

Smoking cigarettes is not the same thing. It IS 100% proven to cause lung cancer, lung disease, it is detrimental to your arteries, etc...

My granddad smoked everyday for two or three years when he was a teenager, then stopped when he got married. And now, 40 years later he's had to have 2 surgeries to place stents in arteries in his legs due to damage to the arteries from smoking.

Also, eating candy and fast food in the vicinity of other people does not affect other people.

Standing next to someone smoking IS detrimental to other people–a fact well supported by science for decades.

I understand that this thread is for bitching, but don't expect people to buy what you are saying.

Also also, E-cigs are pretty cool looking actually, I must admit. They do not have tar either, so you can probably add a few decades to your life by smoking them instead of normal cigs. At least, until the nicotine addiction ruins your life.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	I **ign despise smoking (though not smokers, let's make the distinction shall we?) but I still hold the cigarette for my sister four times a day because she can't do so herself, and I don't think it's fair that she should be denied one of the few luxuries or vices remaining to her just cos I don't like smoking. That said, I do think it'll be ironic if I die from cancer due to second-hand smoke, but what can you do? However, I do hate ignorant people like those who stand behind you at a bus stop and let their smoke blow into your face. I mean, if you're going to smoke, be a little considerate about it, you ignorant piece of *. One more thing: our govt (like most/all govts I expect) is forever whining about how they want people to give up smoking, but think about it: the loss of jobs and industry if that happened? They clearly DON'T want it to happen: imagine if one day every single smoker in Ireland gave it up forever? The chaos! The unemployment! The loss of revenue! So they pretend that they want people to stop smoking, in order to give them an excuse to put up the price of cigarettes and make more money for them in excise duty, knowing full well smokers will pay any price. Bastards. I really feel for smokers when that happens. And it happens every single budget. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*