OccultHawk

Black kids from uneducated families remain uneducated. So that problem isn’t fixed. Then uneducated black kids are so disruptive they make it impossible for anyone else to learn.

Anyone can choose to believe this or not but the news stories that black kids are more sternly punished than white kids for the same offenses is a falsehood. Black kids run roughshod over white middle class teachers who are out of their depth.

The black grandmother (the ultimate matriarch and leader in black communities) wants black kids disciplined in school with an iron fist. The **** the SPLC puts out is white middle class propaganda. The system that governs black schools is WHITE. It’s too gentle for ghetto kids. If black people governed their own schools grandma would be sitting in the back of the class with a switch and any kid who objected would get their ass beat. One generation later they’d be able to ****ing read.

So I figure next I’m going to hear oh so you think black kids should be forced to do this or that. No, I don’t. But more importantly it’s none of my ****ing business.

The idea that poor blacks want a replication of middle class white schools is ridiculous. It’s ridiculous because we’ve been trying it since the 70s and it doesn’t ****ing work.

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The Batlord

Not gonna say that I know how to educate black kids, but just about all the black people I've known have had much the same Irish Catholic attitude about discipline that my family does: spare the rod spoil the child. Physical violence against kids is something to tell stories about and laugh, not call child services about. So I can definitely see OccultHawk's point.

Whether or not it's the best possible method of disciplining children in a vacuum it's a method that many cultures are used to and acculturated to, so it's actually meaningful to them. Hard to argue with something some people see as integral to molding the minds and values of their children.

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It’s just true. My dad joked about it after beating my ass. He said verbatim “Call social services. See how long it takes until some n-gger has his dick in your ass!”

Seeing as to how I grew up in Atlanta his point was well-taken.

**** that’s brutal. Reading it, it almost doesn’t seem real but that’s 100% true.

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The Batlord

Yeah no, I got plenty of that **** as a child. Like the time I was just playing around on my grandparents piano and making a **** ton of noise and my uncle came up to me and told me to stop. I told him in the brattiest voice possible, "You're not my dad!" and he grabbed me by the jaw in a vice grip and threatened me with violence.

That sounds terrible and all (and it is), but I could never help but feel that when a teacher was dealing with me for doing something equally bratty and they're trying to explain to me calmly why I shouldn't do that that it must not have been nearly as big a deal cause they weren't seizing me by the mouth and scaring the ever loving **** out of me.

It's all well and good to decide that that is a wrong way to deal with children, but it doesn't mean much to that child who was raised that way and when the parents hear that it probably sounds like the degenerate imperialists are trying to educate the natives.

Thanks for making me lose more faith in the human race's ability to coexist.

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The Batlord

Well duh, but there are cultures where that's considered normal, so treating those as abusive outliers is like "educating the natives".

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Of course, but it's still a method used by large swathes of the population who do not appreciate you telling them that they're abusing their children.

Again, imperialists educating the natives.

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OccultHawk

It works in jail schools where the kids have no civil rights and the staff have the ability to overpower any kid any time but even in those situations they still have to reward the behavior they want.

The truth is compulsory education IS prison and ultimately can only operate like prisons. Once you force kids to go to school you’ve already lost the opportunity to educate them.

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Would you walk up to and tell a physical black mother that she's committing a crime by smacking her kid? I mean would you walk up to her and tell her personally? Would you tell this human being who you'd have to look in the eyes and speak to that the way in which she is raising her children is perpetuating violence and start quoting studies to her?

Cause that's literally what our white culture is doing, and I imagine how she would respond to you is how black (and many other) cultures would respond to you.

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1) you never criticize minority cultures - you coddle them with kid gloves ( which is actually racist)
2) the schools CAN’T do that anymore than you can bench press 1000 lbs.

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TBH I'd like to thank OH for putting it to me in a way that makes me feel like I should have seen it the entire time. Makes me feel stupid in a good way.

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