The Saturday 6-Pack

OccultHawk · 04-22-2018, 08:24 AM

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All in favour of voluntary segregation.

Church

Lisnaholic · 04-22-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

At least, blacks had access to public transportation back before we scaled everything back for the auto-industry.

Check your local county lock-ups website and see how many black people are in jail for probation violations that involve driving on a suspended license.

Common sequence of events:

Impossible to find public transportation to work
Arrested for something blacks are far more likely to get arrested for
Given court fees and fines probation and suspended license
Will be put back in jail in fines aren’t paid
Drives to work because there’s no other choice
Police have a scanner that connects the license plate to a likely suspended license
Black man pulled over and arrested for driving on a suspended license which is a parole or probation violation
Likely sentence for “repeat offender” 2-5 years

That’s far worse than having a back of the bus to sit in. Today, it’s no bus at all and prison.
What good is a desegregated bus that doesn’t exist?

^ Surely everything above except the bolded applies to white guys too. Also, it's a bit of a stretch to blame the auto industry for endorsing racial inequality or something; black people buy cars too don't they?

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Not really. Southerners loved their lynchings no doubt. But I’d wager just as many whites get hard as a rock watching all these police shootings. Post one of those modern day lynchings online and watch the celebration in the comment section begin. And the victims are just as dead as any lynching victim. So what’s the difference to him and his family?

^ Just because you end up dead doesn't mean that the circumstances can be equated. Imagine two twins in Rwanda: one is struck by lightning sitting in his garden at the exact moment that his brother is hacked to death in a genocidal attack. Only at a very fundamental level can we say "They're both dead, so what's the difference?"

To make the case that cop shootings are equivalent to lynchings, a statistical approach might be better, and without actually doing the donkey work of researching, I bet there are proportionately fewer police shootings today than there were lynchings back in the heyday of racism.

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We want to see the narrative as a productive civil rights movement but like the people in the past we’re blind to our own injustices.

^ This is true, but the injustices are at least less today; getting picked on by policemen must be terrible, but doesn't come close to the widespread slavery that used to go on.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2018, 09:50 AM

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Surely everything above except the bolded applies to white guys too. Also, it's a bit of a stretch to blame the auto industry for endorsing racial inequality or something; black people buy cars too don't they?

If you think this injustice is applied equally to whites go see who they have locked up in your area.

The auto-industry has lobbied against public transportation all along and the results have been disproportionately devastating to black communities. Couple that with less favorable terms on auto loans.

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I bet there are proportionately fewer police shootings today than there were lynchings back in the heyday of racism.

1) He said 100 years ago which places us just post WWI not during reconstruction.
2) When you factor in the institutional lynchings which is the disparity of our legal system the chances of falling prey are worse today.

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getting picked on by policemen must be terrible, but doesn't come close to the widespread slavery that used to go on.

Slavery was abolished in 1865.

Lisnaholic · 04-22-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

1) He said 100 years ago which places us just post WWI not during reconstruction.

^ Ah! This is a detail in the argument that I overlooked. Sorry.

Yeah, I'm no fan of the auto industry's devastating effect on public transport. If it's any consolation, in rural England plenty of middle-class whites have suffered from this for decades, more so than the black population who tend to congregate in the cities, where transport services are better.

**Exo** · 04-22-2018, 10:25 AM

You guys can go f*ck yourselves. I wear band shirts all the time because I like to. I even have a Nirvana shirt and a Joy Division shirt I occasionally wear. Suck my d*ck.

**Exo** · 04-22-2018, 10:31 AM

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can you imagine Ian Curtis in a band shirt

why not form your own identity

My identity is a dude who like to wear band shirts. Do you seriously not get that? I should be more like Ian Curtis but also, Exo, just be yourself. That makes sense.

**Goofle** · 04-22-2018, 10:39 AM

Everybody should be less like Ian Curtis.

**Exo** · 04-22-2018, 10:42 AM

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Everybody should be less like Ian Curtis.

Nah dude. I have to just be myself and also like somebody else because only that will make me cool by not being cool.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

can you imagine Ian Curtis in a band shirt

I don’t have to. He was photographed wearing a Nektar t-shirt.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 04-22-2018, 10:55 AM

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bragged about voting Tory though

Didn't know this.

Wouldn't have had him down as a Tory.

I agree on the band t shirts.

Not for me.

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