The Saturday 6-Pack

The Batlord · 04-21-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

My Dad was violent like his daddy before him and it just created violent disruptive troubled kids like my brother and I

Well duh, but there are cultures where that's considered normal, so treating those as abusive outliers is like "educating the natives".

The Batlord · 04-21-2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think violence is a lazy method that makes sense when you got 40 in a class and teachers have to buy pencils but it doesn't work long term

Of course, but it's still a method used by large swathes of the population who do not appreciate you telling them that they're abusing their children.

Again, imperialists educating the natives.

OccultHawk · 04-21-2018, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think violence is a lazy method that makes sense when you got 40 in a class and teachers have to buy pencils but it doesn't work long term

It works in jail schools where the kids have no civil rights and the staff have the ability to overpower any kid any time but even in those situations they still have to reward the behavior they want.

The truth is compulsory education IS prison and ultimately can only operate like prisons. Once you force kids to go to school you’ve already lost the opportunity to educate them.

The Batlord · 04-21-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's common in poor white culture as well and I have no qualms about pointing out when a culture is ****

it's really a perfect example of what public school should remove kids from just like religious indoctrination

Would you walk up to and tell a physical black mother that she's committing a crime by smacking her kid? I mean would you walk up to her and tell her personally? Would you tell this human being who you'd have to look in the eyes and speak to that the way in which she is raising her children is perpetuating violence and start quoting studies to her?

Cause that's literally what our white culture is doing, and I imagine how she would respond to you is how black (and many other) cultures would respond to you.

OccultHawk · 04-21-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's common in poor white culture as well and I have no qualms about pointing out when a culture is ****

it's really a perfect example of what public school should remove kids from just like religious indoctrination

1) you never criticize minority cultures - you coddle them with kid gloves ( which is actually racist)
2) the schools CAN’T do that anymore than you can bench press 1000 lbs.

The Batlord · 04-21-2018, 06:58 PM

TBH I'd like to thank OH for putting it to me in a way that makes me feel like I should have seen it the entire time. Makes me feel stupid in a good way.

OccultHawk · 04-21-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Would you walk up to and tell a physical black mother that she's committing a crime by smacking her kid? I mean would you walk up to her and tell her personally? Would you tell this human being who you'd have to look in the eyes and speak to that the way in which she is raising her children is perpetuating violence and start quoting studies to her?

Cause that's literally what our white culture is doing, and I imagine how she would respond to you is how black (and many other) cultures would respond to you.

elph would do well to understand that assimilation is more oppressive than segregation

OccultHawk · 04-21-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

TBH I'd like to thank OH for putting it to me in a way that makes me feel like I should have seen it the entire time. Makes me feel stupid in a good way.

Cheers man

OccultHawk · 04-21-2018, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't think this is a race thing again poor whites will brag about how their daddy kicked the **** out of them

So do rich white people you classist

btw - do you think it might be possible for you to talk about another ethnic group or do you only see the world as it relates to white people?

The Batlord · 04-21-2018, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't think this is a race thing again poor whites will brag about how their daddy kicked the **** out of them

You are avoiding the question. Would you walk up to and tell a parent that they were raising their child wrong? Black parents are an example because they are an example of poor families who have a culturally conservative approach to parenting that does not include liberal white parenting theory.

What you are talking about is educating an entire class of human beings who do not hold your views that they are parenting wrong. Black parents are a very good example of this because they are predominantly lower class, culturally conservative, and middle class white people are highly sensitive to the idea of treating them like people who need to be told what to do because they simply don't know any better.