Worst Person Ever (show, quote, Lute)

sleepy jack · 01-27-2008, 12:55 AM

I see, nevermind my post than.

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Originally Posted by TheDonald

So you think killing jews is worse than raping children? Sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.

I don't think many things top systematic murder of a people based on nothing more than their beliefs. Raping children is pretty close but you said distributor, distributing child porn is despicable but it's not worse than the actual act of raping or killing millions of people.

Strummer521 · 01-27-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I see, nevermind my post than.

I don't think many things top systematic murder of a people based on nothing more than their beliefs. Raping children is pretty close but you said distributor, distributing child porn is despicable but it's not worse than the actual act of raping or killing millions of people.

I don't really see how it's worth attributing a value system to things like this. It's almost impossible anyway. The distribution of child porn makes it into something of an underground industry. So is the act of molestation really worse than something which possibly makes the act lucrative and thus increases motivation for performing the act tenfold?

And think of this. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of millions of people. While Charles Manson was responsible for far fewer deaths, he would have probably caused as many as Hitler had he the chance. I don't think we should rate killers by their statistics. It's kind of a situation where it's best not to give them the satisfaction, I guess.

Let's just all agree that certain things (rape, murder, bubble gum flavored children's Tylenol) are just really bad and it's not really necessary to compare them. At least not on such a grand scale. Obviously the courts need to do so to administer punishments, but the degrees to which these things are to be weighed is an issue too complex and obscure for us to consider in our daily lives. As long as we understand that it's bad...we're all set.

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-27-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Strummer521

Let's just all agree that certain things (rape, murder, bubble gum flavored children's Tylenol) are just really bad and it's not really necessary to compare them. At least not on such a grand scale. Obviously the courts need to do so to administer punishments, but the degrees to which these things are to be weighed is an issue too complex and obscure for us to consider in our daily lives. As long as we understand that it's bad...we're all set.

Nope, I'm not agreeing to this statement. Understanding the legal system and why it works the way it does is a very important part of the political climate, and thus understanding it should be important to all of us. Knowing how to gauge just and fair, and understanding your rights and the rights of everyone around and why those rights belong to said people is important. Just agreeing to something being bad doesn't really prove that it is bad. The standard on which things should be judged should be known by the general populace or the legal system can become very corrupt very quick.

dog · 01-27-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lucylamppost

Nothing is wrong with Ono ....she is not a bad person

I know that when I say this
I may be stepping on pins and needles.
But I dont like all these people
Slagging her for breaking up the beatles.
(dont blame it on yokey!)
If I was john and you were yoko,
I would gladly give up musical genius,
Just to have you as my very own, personal venus.

i agree, all yoko did was love john. she kinda took advantage of john's fame to sell lennon based products, which included imagine baby clothes and toys. which i thought was a horrible thing to do. but i dont hate her, i definately dont think she should die.

~~TheDonald~~ · 01-27-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie

^I still don't understand how people can honeslty beleive that people who do thing like that are worse than people who have killedl millions upon millions of people.

I was just throwin it out there...

right-track · 01-27-2008, 06:09 AM

Catholic priests should be included in this poll.
The ones that hide behind the church, using it as a smokescreen for their sick and perverted lifestyles.
These people are the lowest form of life.

British_pharaoh · 01-27-2008, 07:16 AM

Pol pot

anticipation · 01-27-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfa

its just the way he died is really really creepy. But seriously...in Russia for the longest time (not sure about now) he was thought of as the VERY embodiment of evil, and that he had used that evil power to become the adviser to the Czar. Apparently Rasputin prayed and caused the Czar's son's illness to be sick, and he became the advisor to the Czar. But because the Czar didnt release to the public that his son was sick, many people questioned Rasputin being an advisor to Nicolas. Anyhow...there are all sorts of creepy stories that revolved around him...and he overindulged that a lot

Nicolas brought Rasputin in to cure his son, which he did. That's how he became the advisor to the Czar. Honestly, Rasputin is nothing more than a folk hero that is often looked harshly upon because of his close relationship with Nicolas, and held as a scapegoat for some of the Czar's more idiotic actions. To say that he is the embodiment of evil in russia is preposterous, considering that Stalin, Lenin, and Ivan the Terrible were all far worse men.

~~TheDonald~~ · 01-27-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I see, nevermind my post than.

I don't think many things top systematic murder of a people based on nothing more than their beliefs. Raping children is pretty close but you said distributor, distributing child porn is despicable but it's not worse than the actual act of raping or killing millions of people.

True, I guess I was assuming the child pornography he was distributing was of him doing the acts as well. Either way, it's dispicable.

While Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc were undoubtedly pure evil, I still put these child molesters ahead of them on this list, just hear me out.

There's no doubt that what Hitler did was horrific, but in his mind, he thought he was doing what was right. In his eyes, he was purifying the earth. While it is obvious that he was wrong, in his eyes he wasn't. Now, child pornography/molesters. There is no way to justify these actions. There is no one who can try to say that this is okay to do.

Now both the genocidal maniacs and the child molesters deserve to burn in hell. I'm in no way condoning the actions of Hitler, Stalin, etc, and it may be comparing apples to oranges, but I'm just trying to show my train of thought on the subject.

~~The Unfan~~ · 01-27-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDonald

There's no doubt that what Hitler did was horrific, but in his mind, he thought he was doing what was right. In his eyes, he was purifying the earth. While it is obvious that he was wrong, in his eyes he wasn't. Now, child pornography/molesters. There is no way to justify these actions. There is no one who can try to say that this is okay to do.

Just trying to show love to the child.

View Poll Results: Who is the worst person in the history of the world?
Adolf Hitler	35	36.84%
Vlad the Impaler	7	7.37%
Benedict Arnold	2	2.11%
Jim Jones	4	4.21%
Joseph Stalin	12	12.63%
O.J. Simpson	0	0%
Sean Hannity	5	5.26%
Other	30	31.58%
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01-27-2008, 07:16 AM	#57 (permalink)
British_pharaoh Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 454	Pol pot __________________ "I hate Purity, I hate Goodness, I don't want virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone corrupt to the bones" Fat Ed's Guide To Metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdqV_sqal0

01-27-2008, 06:09 AM	#56 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Catholic priests should be included in this poll. The ones that hide behind the church, using it as a smokescreen for their sick and perverted lifestyles. These people are the lowest form of life.