TheBig3

Ok well anywho...the reason I'm not fond of Clinton is that she's part of the old boys network in washington and I've never really been alright with the glad-handing that goes on there.

People call that "experience" but I'm fairly certain that state government has a monopoly on ****ing me blind. I don't need washington to pull that same hogwash.

I don't disagree with her stance on the war or healthcare, but its her stance in politics thats especially trying. I was never a fan of NAFTA, and yes I realize that she isn't Bill Clinton, but thats another I have with Hillary, she's the most nimble of the "flip-floppers" to date. This isn't limited to her midcampaign change up but her ability to pull the "not a washington insider/washington experienced" BS.

For example, one of the reasons people love her is that she served as a politically prominent first lady with her husband, but on issues that people took umbrage "she had no hand in actual legislation."

Not to mention that she openly says she accepts money from lobbyists and while this isn't a huge issue, campaigned actively in Michigan prior to the NH primary.

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sleepy jack

I consider it important, she's the only democratic candidate who does that. It's a problem when lobbyists are more important than people. I think the fact she tries to lie about it says alot too. She said something like "They represent real americans, nurses and firefighters and corporations that employ your average american." Which according to some data, I can't remember where I'll look it up if you want, that statement was pretty inaccurate. Some did but for the most part the lobbyists contributing to Hilary's campaign were big industries. It's total bullshit that lobbyists represent every day people like she suggests, she cares more about businesses than american citizens which is a horrible quality in a could-be president. I don't care for Edwards on alot of things or Obama much at all but they were right in saying she shouldn't accept money from lobbyists. She's a corporate whore who will do whatever she's told regardless of who in her eyes she stamps on, which could be her own people for all she cares.

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Wayfarer

So, what? They're supposed to get married...and pretend like it's not marriage? Why don't you pretend like it's not marriage? You're the ones bitching, you fantasize.