The Smoking ban

Wayfarer · 11-30-2007, 01:30 PM

FFS. Ignore the "mild" then. Point remains the same.

fool on the hill · 11-30-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

FFS. Ignore the "mild" then. Point remains the same.

A Hypothetical situation: I'm your neighbour in the apartment next door. It's two o'clock in the morning and you've got work at eight in the morning. I'm blaring my stereo so loudly that you can't get decent sleep. Do you have the right to beat on my door saying "Could you turn that down?" Do the cops have the right to tell me to turn down my stereo? There are many other similar types of common scenarios.

Freedom is a wonderful thing, but with it come certain responsibilities.

My $0.02...

~ josh

Wayfarer · 11-30-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fool on the hill

A Hypothetical situation: I'm your neighbour in the apartment next door. It's two o'clock in the morning and you've got work at eight in the morning. I'm blaring my stereo so loudly that you can't get decent sleep. Do you have the right to beat on my door saying "Could you turn that down?" Do the cops have the right to tell me to turn down my stereo? There are many other similar types of common scenarios
~ josh

I'd be on my own property, and you'd be bothering me. That's not exactly comparable to me smoking a cigarette out on a public sidewalk and you being irritated by it. But to answer your question, yes, I'd have the right to tell you to turn it down. Just as you'd have the right to tell me to leave if I were smoking in your apartment. Causing any kind of disturbance at two o'clock in the morning and annoying the piss out of people who are on their own property is not a civil liberty.

ItsRed · 11-30-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by littleknowitall

It Just went up to 18 by me....although i know a lot of people aren't happy and i don't know anyone under the age who it's actually stopped.

It should have given a 2 year warning, people who were addicted legally at 16 have been forced to quit and to me that seems unreasonable.

Yeah, you're right, but is it going to continue to go up to 20 and so on.

My stupid little point is that there are several industries that profit from cigarette smokers as well as the government and that's why it will only be bastardized (by bans and crud) rather than outlawed.

So, either it's legal, or it's not. The rest kind of comes down to consideration on the part of the individual.

ItsRed · 11-30-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fool on the hill

Personally, I'm happy with the ban. I don't give a damn about whether smoking is unhealthy or not, or how much second-hand smoke may or may not affect a non-smoker's health-- I know only one thing (being a non-smoker): Its VERY unpleasant, like needles going into my eyes.

Maybe because I don't smoke my olfactory glands work better, but I can smell the smoke on people's clothes and it doesn't just stink-- it has a physical effect on my eyes and nasal passages. When I visit my parents, who smoke, that smell is in my clothes & my eyes burn long after I have gone.

Stink I can deal with, but not the physical pain from being around people who could care less and light up anyway. For that reason alone, I welcome the ban. Smokers should keep that unpleasantness to themselves.

~ josh

Amen brother! And perfume wearers and pet owners and halitosis suffers and all of those raised as free farters and all those who annoyingly talk about celebrity gossip (they make me physically ill). Everybody should just stay in their hole.

I'm joking, I actually commend you for at least being honest about it, although I don't think you understand the full breadth, the full implications of you're position (it's honest, but myopic).

Joshee · 11-30-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Oh, I'm not being arrogant, it's just that easy to win arguments against you ignorant, self-righteous ****s.

Ha ha ha ha,
Tosser.

Wayfarer · 12-01-2007, 10:55 PM

Well I can't compete with that razor wit.

gattocake · 12-05-2007, 01:45 PM

Somehow, I think it'll still be pretty bad.

I think everyone here already knows my thoughts on the smoking ban, and if anyone disagrees, I'll be happy to make you look like a fucking idiot. Oh, I'm not being arrogant, it's just that easy to win arguments against you ignorant, self-righteous cunts.[/QUOTE]

The smoking ban is a great thing. I used to smoke - i gave it up since. I still go out from the club to the smoking areas and have the banter out there - another aspect of the night! You can actually have a conversation, then come back in and get pissed and go for a dance

Wayfarer · 12-05-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gattocake

The smoking ban is a great thing. I used to smoke - i gave it up since.

Staggering argument, but I think I'm still opposed.

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gattocake Groupie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3	Somehow, I think it'll still be pretty bad. I think everyone here already knows my thoughts on the smoking ban, and if anyone disagrees, I'll be happy to make you look like a fucking idiot. Oh, I'm not being arrogant, it's just that easy to win arguments against you ignorant, self-righteous cunts.[/QUOTE] The smoking ban is a great thing. I used to smoke - i gave it up since. I still go out from the club to the smoking areas and have the banter out there - another aspect of the night! You can actually have a conversation, then come back in and get pissed and go for a dance