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Shrooms 36 5.71%
Acid 51 8.08%
Weed 242 38.35%
Ecstasy 30 4.75%
Meth 7 1.11%
Coke/Crack 15 2.38%
Heroin/Opium 17 2.69%
Alcohol 65 10.30%
Caffeine 52 8.24%
Nicotine/Harmane 11 1.74%
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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However, something else which is not so frequently brought up is you also have to figure out how to handle cannabis in a political way. jgd suggested letting companies sell it and then government taxation. A "problem" with cannabis is that you can homegrow it and if that's tolerated, people are gonna grow it and sell it themselves, pushing down the prices and avoiding taxation. Because of this, if you're gonna say that legalizing it will be cheaper for society, you need a way of regulating it. The appearant way is to say something like "homegrowing will be illegal" or "you can only have one plant". However, people are still gonna grow it and then you need the police to handle those .. in other words, in that scenario there will still be cannabis related crimes which will cost society to deal with and the government and it's taxes are going to come head to head with homegrowers and illegal sellers. You can deal with this by saying "anything goes", but then you essentially only have the costs of legalizing cannabis in society and very few benefits.
It's not illegal to grow your own tobacco or brew your own beer/distill your own alcohol. Where the industry begins to suffer is when people flood the market with supply and expect prices to remain constant. Cannabis, being a relatively hardy plant and easy to grow, could conceivably dominate agrarian business (much like tobacco does in parts of the United States). Indeed, the biggest problem the legalization of cannabis introduces has nothing to do with its existence as a recreational drug, but the pressure it puts on farmers. Already many farmers (and consumers who purchase corn-based products) are feeling the effects that the ethanol buzz has on crop prices -- imagine this on a much larger scale.

You definitely bring up some interesting points. What I want to see are conclusive studies which are regulated by impartial groups to determine what implications long-term cannabis use has on people. If people are ever going to throw prejudice and stereotypes aside there needs to be a push for comprehensive information about cannabis use in general. There's just too much propaganda floating around, even today, for people to recognize the difference between valuable information and government-endorsed bullshit.

As of right now I don't see why marijuana shouldn't be legalized, but I would rather it stem from investigative research about its effects than general popularity. As with all things that change in the universe this will certainly take time, it might be decades before it's even decriminalized, but I can't imagine any possible reason why America (and the rest of the world) can't approach cannabis legalization objectively.
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It's not illegal to grow your own tobacco or brew your own beer/distill your own alcohol.
Hmm, are you sure? I thought destillation and selling of homemade liquor (moonshine) was illegal in America. Anyways, alcohol and tobacco products are generally much more refined products than cannabis. Smoking and drying a tobacco leaf does not make for a good cigarette and leaving yeast and sugar to ferment in a barrel does not give you a good beer. I've never had a homebrew that could actually compete in a market with the stuff you get in the stores, yet for cannabis, it's much simpler and much more feasible. Thus, I would argue that tobacco/alcohol/cannabis comparisons are not a good source for predictions on how society will be impacted by legalization.

Sorry for being a bit nitpicky about that detail. I do agree with almost everything else you write except I obviously still don't think it should be legalized. I will agree that legalization has benefits, I just don't think it would be beneficial overall.
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Hmm, are you sure? I thought destillation and selling of homemade liquor (moonshine) was illegal in America. Anyways, alcohol and tobacco products are generally much more refined products than cannabis. Smoking and drying a tobacco leaf does not make for a good cigarette and leaving yeast and sugar to ferment in a barrel does not give you a good beer. I've never had a homebrew that could actually compete in a market with the stuff you get in the stores, yet for cannabis, it's much simpler and much more feasible. Thus, I would argue that tobacco/alcohol/cannabis comparisons are not a good source for predictions on how society will be impacted by legalization.

Sorry for being a bit nitpicky about that detail. I do agree with almost everything else you write except I obviously still don't think it should be legalized. I will agree that legalization has benefits, I just don't think it would be beneficial overall.
It's illegal for commercial purposes, but not home use. Home wine and beer brewing are completely legal, have been since 1978.
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It's illegal for commercial purposes
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It has to be, otherwise people would (among other things) avoid taxation. If you legalize and tax mary jane, the government is gonna have to duke it out with all those people who will grow it and sell it.
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