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Newkie 07-11-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER. (Post 1342781)
Literally loads of people are dying over here because of fake ecstasy pills. I was planning on scoring a few pills for the Saturday night at T but I'm just going to leave it, definitely not worth the risk at all.

Yeah, you've got to love the media reaction though. "Omg, stay away from ecstasy because if you get the fake stuff you'll die". Eh.

I tend to stay away from pills though. I just stick to molly if I ever indulge in MD, just feels easier plus you can tell sometimes if its been cut to **** before it's in your system. If you know anyone who does it proper i'd recommend that.

FETCHER. 07-11-2013 05:38 PM

Yeah man if I'm taking anything at this festival it will be MDMA and no pills. Two people have died already and it's not even really started til tomorrow (Friday night).

Freebase Dali 07-11-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER. (Post 1343038)
Yeah man if I'm taking anything at this festival it will be MDMA and no pills. Two people have died already and it's not even really started til tomorrow (Friday night).

So you've got an MDMA chem tester on hand? Or are you under the impression that a powder is harder to adulterate than a pressed pill?

FETCHER. 07-11-2013 07:06 PM

No I don't but it still doesn't explain why you felt the need to be condescending.




And no, but I figure when it's dark and can't see the colour of my pill when it is specifically 'green rolexes' that are killing people, that I'd ptobably be safer taking MDMA if anything.

Freebase Dali 07-11-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER. (Post 1343081)
No I don't but it still doesn't explain why you felt the need to be condescending.




And no, but I figure when it's dark and can't see the colour of my pill when it is specifically 'green rolexes' that are killing people, that I'd ptobably be safer taking MDMA if anything.

Oh sh*t I didn't mean that to sound condescending!!
My bad. I come off that way. I need to add smileys I guess.

I was just trying to discern whether or not you felt safe by taking a powder versus a pill, since that's what it seemed like. You bring up a good point about knowing which pills are killing people, however, it seems to me that it'd be easy enough to solve by simply having a lighter or some sort of light source to determine whether something is green or not, since something being in pillform or powder doesn't dictate the type of chemical that is in it.

Fair play though. You didn't mention knowing the exact pill that was causing the deaths, so I assumed you were just staying away from pills themselves and just saying that anything in powder form was therefore MDMA without actually knowing it.

Safety is safety, as far as I'm concerned.
Good thing you know the exact ones that are killing people! I would definitely warn people about them too. :)

Sansa Stark 07-11-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1343088)
Oh sh*t I didn't mean that to sound condescending!!
My bad. I come off that way. I need to add smileys I guess.

I was just trying to discern whether or not you felt safe by taking a powder versus a pill, since that's what it seemed like. You bring up a good point about knowing which pills are killing people, however, it seems to me that it'd be easy enough to solve by simply having a lighter or some sort of light source to determine whether something is green or not, since something being in pillform or powder doesn't dictate the type of chemical that is in it.

Fair play though. You didn't mention knowing the exact pill that was causing the deaths, so I assumed you were just staying away from pills themselves and just saying that anything in powder form was therefore MDMA without actually knowing it.

Safety is safety, as far as I'm concerned.
Good thing you know the exact ones that are killing people! I would definitely warn people about them too. :)

I got what you meant and I agree, I would feel a lot more at ease if she didn't do them at all, but that's me and she's a grown woman and she can do what she wants.

Personally I wouldn't chance it, I'd probably get drunk or stoned instead. I've never actually done ecstasy/mdma though

Freebase Dali 07-11-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1343092)
I got what you meant and I agree, I would feel a lot more at ease if she didn't do them at all, but that's me and she's a grown woman and she can do what she wants.

Personally I wouldn't chance it, I'd probably get drunk or stoned instead. I've never actually done ecstasy/mdma though

I know. I mean, now days, yea I definitely wouldn't chance it regardless of what form it was in, unless I knew exactly what it was (test kit) and didn't have piss tests (I do).
However, the thing that worries me is people seem to be gravitating to the idea that if it's powder, it's MDMA and safe to take, but if it's in pillform, it's not. In general, I've been seeing this, not particularly just here. That entire line of reasoning is highly illogical and absolutely RIPE for exploitation, because then it allows anyone to present anything and they don't even have to have a pill press to do it.

To me, that's an even more untrustworthy factor, anecdotal evidence aside, than anything else. At the very least, for rip-off's sake.

But as far as Kay is concerned, as long as she knows what's killing folks, at least she can verify that she's not taking it. But if she isn't at least looking at the stuff to see what color it is, for all she knows, she could be taking crushed up death pills.

Sansa Stark 07-11-2013 07:33 PM

^ Exactly. I totally get what you mean, people seem to be really reckless about MDMA, there seems to be a whole "**** it" mentality toward it and it's really dangerous, I wouldn't **** with it at all being that it seems to be cut with some awful things that I would not put into my body and you are really throwing the dice when you do it

I have my own reasons for not touching x but ****

I mean if an opiate addict thinks it's a bad idea you should probably listen, lmao

Frownland 07-11-2013 07:37 PM

For ecstasy users who aren't aware of this yet: Pill Reports - Ecstasy Test Results Database by Enlighten.

Freebase Dali 07-11-2013 07:46 PM

Pill reports is decent.
Back in the late 90s, early 00s, there was a site that I think was called dancesafe or something. Same sort of thing as pill reports, except people would send in their X (obviously just a pill and not the whole bag) and they would test it for them and post the results on the website. Since it was a third party that was unbiased, very good info came about from that. And this was back when pill brands were trustable for a long time. In fact, Rolex was around since then. The name got used and abused because back then, buying a Rolex pill meant you were in for a great night. Just like Mitsubishis, Igloos, Nikes, etc. Now days, if you see those brands on a press, you automatically know it's propping itself up on a brand that no longer "really" exists, which is sorta a giveaway, but you can't be too sure unless you test.

I'm pretty sure it still exists, but I don't know who's running it now, and to be honest, if a person is going to be buying any sort of quantity, they can get a cheap tester on the internet and it's not illegal. Don't go by the hype or the assumption. Test it yourself.

And if you actually end up with pure MDMA... well ****, you're going to have a great night.


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