The Recreational Drug Thread

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by Harry

the lengths of scientific evidence blokes will go through to convince themselves drugs are okay...

lsd is one of the safest synthetic chemicals on the planet. thousands of times less lethal than say, aspirin.

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by bungalow

lsd is one of the safest synthetic chemicals on the planet. thousands of times less lethal than say, aspirin.

I would much rather take one aspirin to LSD.

To say LSD is safer is fallacy. I have never known anyone take an aspirin to proceed to beat his wife up as he imagined her as a demon unlike LSD which is dependent upon state of mind. This happened to a friend who took LSD.

[Sansa Stark]

To be fair, that is more than likely not totally the lsd's fault, it can exacerbate mental problems, which is why people should know their brain better. For example, I cannot take ecstasy because of mine. Can't always blame the drugs.

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by Paloma

To be fair, that is more than likely not totally the lsd's fault, it can exacerbate mental problems, which is why people should know their brain better. For example, I cannot take ecstasy because of mine. Can't always blame the drugs.

To be fair Aspirin is nowhere near close to this either really. it's a product derived from natural products however diluted. Whether it works is another matter but to say LSD is less lethal than Aspirin- c'mon.

The only difference is Aspirin's addictive quality which can be applied to any drug dependent on the person.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by bungalow

lsd is one of the safest synthetic chemicals on the planet. thousands of times less lethal than say, aspirin.

Safe as in physically it ain't going to rot yer skin off...

But mentally, i'd call it potentially quite a doozey. I've known blokes who've been off it 20 years, and still get flash backs. It CAN mentally disturb you. That's not really safe, persay.

But wot do I care.. I use it anyroad. Though not anymore...

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

To be fair Aspirin is nowhere near close to this either really. it's a product derived from natural products however diluted. Whether it works is another matter but to say LSD is less lethal than Aspirin- c'mon.

The only difference is Aspirin's addictive quality which can be applied to any drug dependent on the person.

lsd is less lethal than aspirin. what do you mean 'cmon'? that's a fact.

and lsd is derived from natural products as well--ergot.

[Freebase Dali]

There should be a distinction made here...
Are we talking about physical (not secondary, nor mental) damage to one's self? If so, LSD is definitely less dangerous than Aspirin or any other NSAID. (Which I'm allergic to, thank god.)

If some find that hard to believe, look up the physical ramifications of NSAIDs. Then look up the physical ramifications of LSD.
Quite a no-contest in that perspective.
Although, I think it's worth looking at in a different angle than simply a physical one, depending on the circumstances.

[bungalow]

i'm talking about the toxicity of lsd versus aspirin, and their respective potentials to be lethal.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by bungalow

i'm talking about the toxicity of lsd versus aspirin, and their respective potentials to be lethal.

Yea I figured that's what you meant. I was addressing the others who didn't.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by bungalow

i'm talking about the toxicity of lsd versus aspirin, and their respective potentials to be lethal.

But you can't take the toxicity and decide that makes it less dangerous. That's only one factor in many. Take one hit of LSD vs. one aspirin... wot's the ramifications? With acid, ya never know. Half the time you decide you gonna die anyways, so it isn't too far fetched that you speed up the process, or see that mate of yours 'coming towards you' and decide to beat him upside the head with a bat!

it all depends on circumstance... anything could happen. whereas you take 1 aspirin, and you're just numbed your headache for a bit. although obviously if you abuse it, bad things are bound to happen... but if you make it through, odds you'll be all right-- making it through a bad acid trip is a bit harder to deal with...

ahh its so feckin early. anyways, wot i'm trynig to get at (but barely accomplishing it) is that it's a bid dodgy when people start pulling out these chemical facts out their arse that are in actuality entirely irrelevant in the long run-- so wot if acid is less toxic than aspirin? that doesn't mean you won't be mentally disturbed for life after using. so wot if weed isn't phsyically addictive-- doesn't mean you won't obsessively use it for the next 5 years!