The Recreational Drug Thread

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Harry

Hmm, I wouldn't say traumatised and scarred, persay... more like vastly creeped out. I keep feeling as if I could trick myself into falling back into that state even when not on the stuff-- you know, mind over matter, that I could make myself go back by thinking on it too much. x_x So I've been getting anxious before I fall asleep. But it ought to let up as time passes by, i'm not too worried of it being anything serious... like I said, it's happened before (at levels), and is bound to happen again! Although I'm done with acid.

Oh and IWP, the heaviest part after around 10 min, then it all winds down in about 30 or a bit more. It's sort of fun, but I've never heard of a good trip off it. It's all just really weird. xD

By traumatized and scarred, I mean severly spooked. You say you're still anxious and affected by what happened .. sounds slightly traumatized to me! I think if it has happened before, then take the opportunity to wisen up and not do hallucinogenics? What LSD does is it makes you dream while awake. Perhaps some people only dream of nice things, but positive adjectives like funny, happy and exciting doesn't describe my dreams very well so I'll stay away from it thankyerverramuch!

Don't worry about falling into that state though Mind over matter is not true. Just like chemistry is based on the laws of physics, mind comes from matter and is subject to it and below it in the hierarchy of things. Placebo effects (of the mind) can only accomplish so much. In your case, I think all those thoughts can do is scare you

[IWP]

Originally Posted by trace87

its worth a try i guess. i didn't have the greatest time when i did it but i am glad i did.

That, and the fact that it's legal in my state makes me want to try it.

[debaserr]

Originally Posted by tore

The guy who started that thread says he uses a syringe to suck up the extract, then shoot it up his ass (again, why?)

Great tip, Paloma! Next time I feel a headache coming on and I grab for the painkillers, I'll consider that

i just throw in some grape juice and shoot it. doesn't taste that great.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by tore

By traumatized and scarred, I mean severly spooked. You say you're still anxious and affected by what happened .. sounds slightly traumatized to me! I think if it has happened before, then take the opportunity to wisen up and not do hallucinogenics? What LSD does is it makes you dream while awake. Perhaps some people only dream of nice things, but positive adjectives like funny, happy and exciting doesn't describe my dreams very well so I'll stay away from it thankyerverramuch!

Don't worry about falling into that state though Mind over matter is not true. Just like chemistry is based on the laws of physics, mind comes from matter and is subject to it and below it in the hierarchy of things. Placebo effects (of the mind) can only accomplish so much. In your case, I think all those thoughts can do is scare you

I dinno about that actually, I think people could drive themselves insane without the push of any drugs or anything...
But I'm sort of forgetting about it more as days go by, I was REALLY anxious and such recently after to the point of hardly being able to sleep, but it's been nearly a week and has gotten better... But right, no more LSD for me... Just not worth it, and I don't like the feeling at all where I want it to stop and it won't.

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by tore

By traumatized and scarred, I mean severly spooked. You say you're still anxious and affected by what happened .. sounds slightly traumatized to me! I think if it has happened before, then take the opportunity to wisen up and not do hallucinogenics? What LSD does is it makes you dream while awake. Perhaps some people only dream of nice things, but positive adjectives like funny, happy and exciting doesn't describe my dreams very well so I'll stay away from it thankyerverramuch!

Don't worry about falling into that state though Mind over matter is not true. Just like chemistry is based on the laws of physics, mind comes from matter and is subject to it and below it in the hierarchy of things. Placebo effects (of the mind) can only accomplish so much. In your case, I think all those thoughts can do is scare you

oh really?

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by bungalow

oh really?

What is this? A compelling logical argument of why I'm wrong?

Put simply, LSD binds to serotonin receptors in the brain.

Serotonin on the other hand triggers the brain to dream.

Sources : The Biology of Dreams & Wikipedia

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by tore

The guy who started that thread says he uses a syringe to suck up the extract, then shoot it up his ass (again, why?)

Uranus has greater absorption (90% I believe) than typical methods of ingestion, and its more of a direct route to the bloodstream. I got a buddy that used to be hard on E, and he 'plugged' it nearly every time.

Are your serotonin levels reduced due to LSD? I see how this could correlate. One thing that is pretty wild is sleeping while tripping and being stuck somewhere in between, results in a total loss of reality.

[Harry]

the lengths of scientific evidence blokes will go through to convince themselves drugs are okay...

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by Harry

the lengths of scientific evidence blokes will go through to convince themselves drugs are okay...

Where is this scientific evidence you speak of for drugs other than MJ (which is okay)

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by tore

What is this? A compelling logical argument of why I'm wrong?

Put simply, LSD binds to serotonin receptors in the brain.



Sources : The Biology of Dreams & Wikipedia

i just find it interesting that you speak so authoritatively on the subjective effects of lsd without ever having tried it.