The Recreational Drug Thread

[duga]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I wonder how many good trips people have had on PCP. I bet you haven't heard about any. And not because they don't exist either....

Either way, it's an interesting thing. I won't build a brick wall between me and it, nor me and any other thing until I actually know about it. That's my whole point. I just think people should be encouraged to be curious, even if they don't take it to the level of experience. At least give things two streets instead of one.

I understand what you are saying. I have respect for you, too...I can understand why you would think that way. The only thing I would not have respect for is if you were interested in all these drugs just for a cheap thrill. I encourage taking drugs for personal exploration. I do it myself.

I just hope that you can see why I feel the way I do about it. I am very interested in psychedelics and personal exploration, but there are drugs I can say right now I wouldn't want to try. Good point on the "good" PCP trips...like I said, I'm going to do a bit of research tonight. Maybe they can shift my perspective on it. At this point in time, however, I would say no if someone offered it to me.

[noise]

my PCP experience was not fun and i would never want to repeat it.
first of all, i didn't know it was coming. i found a joint, and stupid me, i smoked the whole thing while walking home from work.

20 minutes later i was sitting on my bed with no idea what was going on. i had a hard time thinking, and i kept asking myself "is this what it feels like to be stoned?"

finally i decided something was wrong, and i started to panic. it was 3am but i woke up my housemate because i knew i needed help.

it took maybe an hour and a half to come back to reality. i remember vomiting a lot. i remember being really freaked out by the sound of trains, because i was certain we didn't live anywhere near a train track (we did). and i remember being extremely afraid of a small door in my housemate's room which i had never noticed before.

but my primary thought which i kept coming back to was a vision of a cartoon deer that had eaten poisonous mushrooms, and lay on the forest floor writhing and hallucinating as it died, utterly terrified and confused. i don't know how many times my housemate tried to convince me i was not that deer...

i was physically never out of control, but only because i had someone there to help me through it. i've done lots of acid and mushrooms in my days, but this was nothing like it at all. it felt so alien, so unnatural. i've never been so frightened in my life.

that was 5 years ago and i've not so much as smoked a bowl since then!

[Thrice]

I used to hit up this house in thugville to purchase some substances while in the military. There were about 15-20 people there every time I went 75% of which were getting wet. At the time, we were rolling in a beemer and had nice sharp haircuts. They would all freak the hell out when we showed up. I got roughed up a few times, as they truly believed I was a cop. It was a terrifying experience every time, as no one really seemed to be having fun. Just seeing these folks in this state was enough for me not to try it. Salvia, on the other hand, is pretty awesome. It is one of the most intense things I have ever experienced, but always fun. The thought of having a sitter has never crossed my mind. I really did not think people freaked out on such a thing. I think this plays into the weak minded aspect of hallucinogens. In the end, 2c-i is still my favorite, and wish it were more common.

[duga]

Ok, after a little research and some reading in the erowid vaults, I've come to the conclusion PCP still isn't worth it for me. From the sound of it, there have been people that have had good experiences with it. However, it didn't sound like anything I couldn't get from a really good salvia trip, plus the list of bad experiences was just way more frightening than the hope of a good one.

A lot of people start to freak, much like noise's experience, a lot of people just forget everything, and a lot of people feel invulnerable (to the point where gouging out their own eyes realistically crosses their minds). It also sounds like a chemical that stays with you because most people after trying it feel only a PCP high when doing other drugs (namely weed) even months later.

This officially is the most confusing drug to me. It is not physically addictive, yet people still become psychologically addicted to it. As Thrice pointed out, the people who take it regularly do not generally look like they are having a very good time on it, yet they keep coming back to it. Extended use causes major depression that a lot of people claim to never be able to get over.

All that is not even the big reason for me to not want to try it. Weed is my go to feel good drug. Anything else I take, I want to take it to explore my mind. Not many people had "world shattering" trips that gave them much insight to anything. Even the people with good trips liked it just because it "felt kinda cool" and maybe they had some minor hallucinations out of the corner of their eyes. To me, it really doesn't sound like it is worth it. Just let me rip some salvia instead.

[Thrice]

Anyone ever tried the Niacin detox method? I've been using it for years successfully. I put down 1000mg a few hours ago, and it has finally hit. Im absolutely miserable, especially after spending a few hours this morning fishing out in the brutal Florida sun.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Does anyone have any addictions to drugs? Whether it be a serious addiction or a simple dependency. Just curious as I have been involved with issues relating to this in the past, not to a serious extent...

I used to smoke, but managed to quit cold turkey .. but I guess that's not what you're after.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by tore

I used to smoke, but managed to quit cold turkey .. but I guess that's not what you're after.

You think thats bad? I was addicted to cold turkey.

[Astronomer]

Originally Posted by RezZ

You think thats bad? I was addicted to cold turkey.

[Guybrush]

Oh, since this is the recreational drug thread, I should specify that I used to smoke tobacco and not opium, weed or crack.

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by tore

Oh, since this is the recreational drug thread, I should specify that I used to smoke tobacco and not opium, weed or crack.

Good job. Thats the best way to do it. I just quit about 6 months ago.

And to answer your question Laterus, I have many very close people in my life that battle addiction, so I know about it first hand. Seeing this had made me develop a habit. Anytime I start becoming dependent on a substance, or start craving it, thats when I quit. Gotta keep yourself in check. My biggest struggle is MJ. I haven't smoked since 4/19. I know that doesn't sound impressive, but it is for a pothead. I usually take a few months off, then slowly start to smoke more and more, then take another few months off. I haven't drank anything either, which is another HUGE struggle,as I come from a long line of full blown alkys.