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Shrooms 36 5.71%
Acid 51 8.10%
Weed 242 38.41%
Ecstasy 30 4.76%
Meth 7 1.11%
Coke/Crack 15 2.38%
Heroin/Opium 17 2.70%
Alcohol 65 10.32%
Caffeine 51 8.10%
Nicotine/Harmane 11 1.75%
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:14 PM   #2521 (permalink)
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Yeah it actually looks nothing like this, I have a pretty rad exhaust system in mindjust way lazy to paint it out. Ill just post up photos as I get into it further.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:34 PM   #2522 (permalink)
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Hmm. That's odd. I know plenty of people who've tried it at least once. Many of them are happy, fully functional adults now. A lot of them were close friends. I was one of them, although I was always too scared to use a needle so I only snorted it.
But, speaking from experience, we weren't self-destructive junkies. We knew the risks, but were very curious as to what the fuss was all about.

I think there's a pretty evident line between recreational drug users and homeless junkies, although I do recognize that one can lead to the other, although I'm sure we all know it's not an inevitable conclusion that it will.

As far as whether someone should be considered "self-destructive" for using heroin recreationally, I fall back to what I asked you before about whether you view self-destructive behavior as negative via principle or effect, because if you've ever binge drank and ended up with a crippling hangover for a few days, with total knowledge of the possibility and health effects, not to mention drinking in a long term scenario, then that could be considered self-destructive as well.
In a self analysis of which you find the greater evil, to be more ok with one than the other would indicate a person's views of self-destructive behavior as not a matter of principle but of effect.

I was just trying to ascertain which of those you side with.
That's interesting .. I guess things may be quite different where we come from. I admit I'm rather naive regarding recreational use of heroin which again is why I asked.

For me, trying heroin for the first time would be self-destructive because I wouldn't know what the positives are (well, I haven't yet experienced them). I think I would have a better idea of what all the negative correlations are with heroin. Trying it for the first time would seem like a gamble .. risk some negatives, lower my standards for what I will do to my body, possibly mixing with the wrong kind of people, change my perception of illegal and harmful drugs and worst of all start on a growing addiction for some potential reward I don't even know. This probably sounds a bit exaggerated, but if I was in the situation where I had the option to try it, those would be things that would worry me - silly or not.

You're right that I think doing "binge drinking" or other kinds of alcohol abuse (whatever that is) when you know it can lead to alcoholism and negative effects on health is self-destructive. For this reason, I'm trying my best not to do it anymore.

Like so many others, I've had a self-destructive period in my life (edit: hard drugs were not involved) from which I carry a few scars. I also used have a friend who did heroin, but he did end up a junkie and terminally ODed not too long ago. It's all made me a little weary, I didn't worry much before my destructive period, but then it bit me in the ass and now that I'm getting close to my 30s, I find I care even more about my general well being.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:28 PM   #2523 (permalink)
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That's interesting .. I guess things may be quite different where we come from. I admit I'm rather naive regarding recreational use of heroin which again is why I asked.

For me, trying heroin for the first time would be self-destructive because I wouldn't know what the positives are (well, I haven't yet experienced them). I think I would have a better idea of what all the negative correlations are with heroin. Trying it for the first time would seem like a gamble .. risk some negatives, lower my standards for what I will do to my body, possibly mixing with the wrong kind of people, change my perception of illegal and harmful drugs and worst of all start on a growing addiction for some potential reward I don't even know. This probably sounds a bit exaggerated, but if I was in the situation where I had the option to try it, those would be things that would worry me - silly or not.

You're right that I think doing "binge drinking" or other kinds of alcohol abuse (whatever that is) when you know it can lead to alcoholism and negative effects on health is self-destructive. For this reason, I'm trying my best not to do it anymore.

Like so many others, I've had a self-destructive period in my life from which I carry a few scars. I also used have a friend who did heroin, but he did end up a junkie and terminally ODed not too long ao. It's all made me a little weary, I didn't worry much before my destructive period, but then it bit me in the ass and now that I'm getting close to my 30s, I find I care even more about my general well being.


I turn 30 in January, and although it's not really a big deal in any way that actually matters (besides being a year closer to the statistically assumed end of my life), I'm finding myself changing the most in this year than I ever have in 5 because of the seemingly epic transformation that comes along with going from your 20's to your 30's, even if it's only separated by a single year.
This is obviously largely a societal gap but it is nonetheless affecting and I notice myself almost forcing change to meet these expectations.
Health is a major factor in this so I can relate to what you're saying.
And while I don't expect to continue recreational drug use throughout my life... and honestly weed is the only thing I do anymore and even that's rare, I do find myself relying on that societal gap to serve as a pivot.
I don't know if that's the right thing to do for me as an individual, or as a part of society. Either way, I have to live in society so as long as I'm able to function in it then I have no qualms with doing what I do as long as it doesn't jeopardize anything.

I guess the real thing is health and well being, but even those are based on hazy facts currently. In one hand, you can play it safe... but in the other, will you regret not letting go and enjoying the only life you have?
It's a struggle, to say the least.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:20 PM   #2524 (permalink)
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picked up an ounce of purp for the festivities which will begin in a few hours. exciting.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:33 PM   #2525 (permalink)
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It has been decided.

On friday me an my friends are going to try pot for the first time, my friend who's house we are doing it at is going to buy an ounce. There's probably going ot be six of us in his woods.

The next day were going to my house and sleeping htere and we're gonna do ti again if we liked it but htis time there's gonne b more like 4 mor eof my friends there who are more experienced and maybe some girls. I've got a perfect spot to doit by mypond (which is a lot bigger than most) near a bonfire of course tucked away by pine trees. we're gonna do both of them probably between 12-3 am.

Any recommendations or tips?
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It has been decided.

On friday me an my friends are going to try pot for the first time, my friend who's house we are doing it at is going to buy an ounce. There's probably going ot be six of us in his woods.

The next day were going to my house and sleeping htere and we're gonna do ti again if we liked it but htis time there's gonne b more like 4 mor eof my friends there who are more experienced and maybe some girls. I've got a perfect spot to doit by mypond (which is a lot bigger than most) near a bonfire of course tucked away by pine trees. we're gonna do both of them probably between 12-3 am.

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marijuana is bad, mkay.

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Old 04-20-2010, 03:21 PM   #2529 (permalink)
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You're gonna smoke in a dark forest at night? Don't watch Evil Dead before you go

I don't smoke of course, but if I did, I'd do it in more comfortable surroundings with less things to potentially spook me I think.
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Don't listen to CunningStunt.
You're not going to become a homeless strung-out junky who sells his mom's china dishes for weed money.

If you want to try it, try it. If you like it, just be careful. If you don't, then you won't have anything to worry about. There's no point in living your entire life denying yourself every little experience someone else happens to look down on. It's your life. YOU live it.

That said, I recommend bringing Gatorade or something, because your mouth will be pretty dry. You guys should make a campfire or something. Roast some marshmallows and get high. Tell stories. Be kids.
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