The Recreational Drug Thread

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

11 people on here take Heroin/Opium..
Jesus Christ

And 6 are crackheads. 7 if you count yourself.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

And 6 are crackheads. 7 if you count yourself.

The only drugs I have ever tried are Alcohol, Caffeine and Hugs.

[crash_override]

Oh snap. I'm sure a few of those are stragglers. Who knows what the real number is.

[Pulsar]

Nicotine is the real man's drug.. The rest is just for youth to experiment with :p

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Is it the principle of self-destruction or the relative amount of self-destruction you find disagreeable?

I'm not disagreeing with anyone or anything, nor trying to be judgmental. It's an honest question because I'm genuinely curious as to what the answer would be.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by tore

I'm not disagreeing with anyone or anything, nor trying to be judgmental. It's an honest question because I'm genuinely curious as to what the answer would be.

Likewise. I was just being curious as well.
It just piqued my interest that you assumed someone to be self-destructive for trying Heroin once.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Likewise. I was just being curious as well.
It just piqued my interest that you assumed someone to be self-destructive for trying Heroin once.

If I just assumed it and was happy with that assumption, I wouldn't have asked. I've made this assumption in the past and now there's a chance to challenge it and gain a little insight.

edit :

The assumption stems from that the only people I see who I know have tried heroin are homeless junkies (I don't know anyone with "normal" happy lives who's ever done it).

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by tore

If I just assumed it and was happy with that assumption, I wouldn't have asked. I've made this assumption in the past and now there's a chance to challenge it and gain a little insight.

edit :

The assumption stems from that the only people I see who I know have tried heroin are homeless junkies (I don't know anyone with "normal" happy lives who's ever done it).

Hmm. That's odd. I know plenty of people who've tried it at least once. Many of them are happy, fully functional adults now. A lot of them were close friends. I was one of them, although I was always too scared to use a needle so I only snorted it.
But, speaking from experience, we weren't self-destructive junkies. We knew the risks, but were very curious as to what the fuss was all about.

I think there's a pretty evident line between recreational drug users and homeless junkies, although I do recognize that one can lead to the other, although I'm sure we all know it's not an inevitable conclusion that it will.

As far as whether someone should be considered "self-destructive" for using heroin recreationally, I fall back to what I asked you before about whether you view self-destructive behavior as negative via principle or effect, because if you've ever binge drank and ended up with a crippling hangover for a few days, with total knowledge of the possibility and health effects, not to mention drinking in a long term scenario, then that could be considered self-destructive as well.
In a self analysis of which you find the greater evil, to be more ok with one than the other would indicate a person's views of self-destructive behavior as not a matter of principle but of effect.

I was just trying to ascertain which of those you side with.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Hmm. That's odd. I know plenty of people who've tried it at least once. Many of them are happy, fully functional adults now. A lot of them were close friends. I was one of them, although I was always too scared to use a needle so I only snorted it.
But, speaking from experience, we weren't self-destructive junkies. We knew the risks, but were very curious as to what the fuss was all about.

I think there's a pretty evident line between recreational drug users and homeless junkies, although I do recognize that one can lead to the other, although I'm sure we all know it's not an inevitable conclusion that it will.

As far as whether someone should be considered "self-destructive" for using heroin recreationally, I fall back to what I asked you before about whether you view self-destructive behavior as negative via principle or effect, because if you've ever binge drank and ended up with a crippling hangover for a few days, with total knowledge of the possibility and health effects, not to mention drinking in a long term scenario, then that could be considered self-destructive as well.
In a self analysis of which you find the greater evil, to be more ok with one than the other would indicate a person's views of self-destructive behavior as not a matter of principle but of effect.

I was just trying to ascertain which of those you side with.

That's interesting .. I guess things may be quite different where we come from. I admit I'm rather naive regarding recreational use of heroin which again is why I asked.

For me, trying heroin for the first time would be self-destructive because I wouldn't know what the positives are (well, I haven't yet experienced them). I think I would have a better idea of what all the negative correlations are with heroin. Trying it for the first time would seem like a gamble .. risk some negatives, lower my standards for what I will do to my body, possibly mixing with the wrong kind of people, change my perception of illegal and harmful drugs and worst of all start on a growing addiction for some potential reward I don't even know. This probably sounds a bit exaggerated, but if I was in the situation where I had the option to try it, those would be things that would worry me - silly or not.

You're right that I think doing "binge drinking" or other kinds of alcohol abuse (whatever that is) when you know it can lead to alcoholism and negative effects on health is self-destructive. For this reason, I'm trying my best not to do it anymore.

Like so many others, I've had a self-destructive period in my life (edit: hard drugs were not involved) from which I carry a few scars. I also used have a friend who did heroin, but he did end up a junkie and terminally ODed not too long ago. It's all made me a little weary, I didn't worry much before my destructive period, but then it bit me in the ass and now that I'm getting close to my 30s, I find I care even more about my general well being.

[bungalow]

picked up an ounce of purp for the festivities which will begin in a few hours. exciting.