Magic the Gathering

WWWP · 05-15-2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Im pretty jaded from Hearthstone arena. I dont enjoy decks without synergy, maybe magic is different? Idk

never played hearthstone but my bf says it's pretty much a direct ripoff. i'm not sure what the mechanics were like, but there are premade themed decks available and you can also buy or win boosters so i've made some cool decks out of those. synergy is key to magic, imo.

**Yac** · 05-16-2018, 05:59 AM

I got into the beta (6 months or so after signing up...), played a bit... but for someone like me, who used to play a lot of mtg 20 or so years ago, without knowing the whole meta etc - it takes a lot of effort to get up to speed. Especially since they I think assume you don't need any of that, as you get a ton of decks and boosters for free...

I really, really like this wildcard (or whatever it's called) mechanic though. Finally there's a way to get specific cards you miss to build the deck you want, without spending a ton of $ and relying on Rngesus blessing you, so you can find it in a booster.

WWWP · 05-16-2018, 10:27 AM

Yes I love the wild card thing too, I have a good collection going. Two mythic (spent two already), three rares, 8 uncommon and 10 common. I'm hesitant to spend them but I guess it'll all be wiped eventually so I might as well. I'm just really enjoying deck building, and the drafts are super fun but it's annoying to pick against the computer.

**Yac** · 05-17-2018, 04:54 AM

Don't you have to invest real money to play drafts ? because that's what I was looking forward the most but I remember feeling disappointed that they wanted me to pay them for it.. in a closed beta.
But maybe I missed something ?

DwnWthVwls · 05-17-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's somehow even simpler than magic which is already the simplest physical CCG that I'm aware of

it has a lot more RNG as well which would make it fun on a casual level you would think, but you still can't play it casually to much success as "fun decks" just get obliterated by Net Decking whatever is broken atm

not that the game isn't fun I'm just a bit jaded

Sounds like CCGs just arent for you. Magic and Hearthstone are by no means simple they just have a floor so low it might as well be the merianas trench. Do you think chess, poker, and go are simple as well?

WWWP · 05-17-2018, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yac

Don't you have to invest real money to play drafts ? because that's what I was looking forward the most but I remember feeling disappointed that they wanted me to pay them for it.. in a closed beta.
But maybe I missed something ?

You can get around paying for it if you complete the daily goals and stack coins and gems, but that's card to do. It's like 5000 gold to enter a draft, and you can win like 200 a day just playing one offs. Or you can buy gems and use those to play drafts (750 for a draft I think), and if you win 5 games you win those gems back. When they wipe everything we get to keep the gems, so I avoid using them. Long answer short, yeah I've put in like $20 so far.

WWWP · 05-19-2018, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

You can get around paying for it if you complete the daily goals and stack coins and gems, but that's card to do. It's like 5000 gold to enter a draft, and you can win like 200 a day just playing one offs. Or you can buy gems and use those to play drafts (750 for a draft I think), and if you win 5 games you win those gems back. When they wipe everything we get to keep the gems, so I avoid using them. Long answer short, yeah I've put in like $20 so far.

Correction:

All the gems you pay for (not the ones you win) are given back to you after the wipe. That's a way better deal than i initially thought.

DwnWthVwls · 05-19-2018, 08:55 AM

I signed up!

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I've played them quite a lot growing up and I've always enjoyed them just not enough to put the resources into something competitive

CCG's are like a mix of poker and chess for sure

neither poker nor chess need a best of 5 format to determine the better or equal player, but I feel like Hearthstone would almost need a best of 10

Tournaments that require you to play every deck eliminates all the strategic planning that goes into banning/deck targeting. The reason you see people different lineups is because they have different win conditions in mind. I like that.

An example: Warlock is crazy popular right now. Bring 3 decks that Warlock has a less than 50% winrate against and never ban it. This puts you in a position to beat every opponent who runs warlock because they have to get a win with it.

(This is a terrible example because Warlock is pretty much shitting on everything and there aren't 3 decks that can consistently beat it, but you get the point)

SmokeAndMirrors · 05-19-2018, 12:26 PM

**** Arcbound Ravager. That is all.

WWWP · 11-21-2018, 03:13 PM

hey what's up direct challenges

hit me up @FoxMulder if you're in the mood to rage quit against my mono white ajani deck

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Yac Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: It's a secret too. Posts: 1,363	I got into the beta (6 months or so after signing up...), played a bit... but for someone like me, who used to play a lot of mtg 20 or so years ago, without knowing the whole meta etc - it takes a lot of effort to get up to speed. Especially since they I think assume you don't need any of that, as you get a ton of decks and boosters for free... I really, really like this wildcard (or whatever it's called) mechanic though. Finally there's a way to get specific cards you miss to build the deck you want, without spending a ton of $ and relying on Rngesus blessing you, so you can find it in a booster.

05-17-2018, 04:54 AM	#34 (permalink)
Yac Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: It's a secret too. Posts: 1,363	Don't you have to invest real money to play drafts ? because that's what I was looking forward the most but I remember feeling disappointed that they wanted me to pay them for it.. in a closed beta. But maybe I missed something ?