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Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

We don't have to do good deeds to earn our eternal happiness. Plus God also does not make us cut ourselves for him, like Baal supposedly told his followers. I think the first one is enough to make him the nicest god.

No, but He allegedly killed almost every living thing on Earth.

The Jews are the Chosen People, and they get treated like crap by God. Then, the Xtians come along, hijack their god, reedit and remaster the Old Testament, amend that group of books with their own set of newer books (some of which are later removed), and improve God's image thanks to new PR agents, right?

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

No, I really just don't like people making fun of my God unless they have done good research. I am not like all Christians.

Would your idea of "bad research" be to read the Bible literally and/or to read books that reference it in history?

Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

many species which were originally thought to only be able to reproduce sexually have proven differently... sharks most recently

God as a shark. Now, that is a metaphor! I think I'll name my band that!

boo boo · 07-09-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Jesus never sinned. Find me the reference.

Well, look up Jn 2.16, Jesus flips out and has a huge temper trantrum at the sight of people handing out collection plates, whipping people. Isn't expressing anger suposed to be a sin?

How about when Jesus ran away from home when he was 12, not even informing Mary and Josepth of his wherabouts? (Lk 2.48).

How about forbidding someone from attending their own fathers funeral? (Mt 8.22). What about killing thousands of someone elses livestock? (Mk 5.13). Or taking 6 huge water vats that are used for purification purposes and fill them with a hundred gallons worth of wine? (Jn 2.6).

At one point he even told children not to respect their elders, in direct contrast to the ten commandments. (Mt 8.22, Lk 14.26).

Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 05:58 PM

Or, here's a biggie: He lied about his station. Before the Bible was edited down into the KJV; before the Douay bible; even before the Latin Vulgate; when Xtianity was being formed, there was another God above the one that is featured in the Old Testament (and, later, in the New Testament).

The God that everyone talks about is only a creator of the physical universe and being blind and ignorant of his origin, was deluded into thinking that He was alone. He was also considered to be evil, as he had created the universe and all material was considered to be evil. Let's say that the Gnostics weren't a very happy bunch.

But, this was considered part of Xtian doctrine until competing factions had decided to destroy most of these writings to further their agenda.

Nothing like a good coverup to make Him look good after a few millennia.

boo boo · 07-09-2007, 06:54 PM

I don't find much validity in Gnosticism.

However, some Gnostics believed that the old testament and new testament gods are completely different gods. The old one being Demiurge.

That kinda makes sense, and would explain why in the new testament god seems like a nice guy, but in the old testament he's such an asshole.

However. The Gnostics believe that everything is evil, which is just stupid. Regardless of what translation of the Bible it is, it just seems like a bunch of inconsistant bullcrap.

Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I don't find much validity in Gnosticism.

I don't find much validity in Christanity, but whether or not the Xtians admit it (most don't), it was born out of Gnosticism.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

However, some Gnostics believed that the old testament and new testament gods are completely different gods. The old one being Demiurge.

That kinda makes sense, and would explain why in the new testament god seems like a nice guy, but in the old testament he's such an asshole.

Not really, considering what you have read in the NT was written by other sects of Xtians. By the time that the NT was lumped together, the reigning Xtians had already ran the Gnostics out of town.

The NT god may seem like a nicer guy than he was before, but he still has his moments.

boo boo · 07-09-2007, 07:07 PM

What are your religious beliefs, if you have any?

Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I don't find much validity in Gnosticism.
However. The Gnostics believe that everything is evil, which is just stupid. Regardless of what translation of the Bible it is, it just seems like a bunch of inconsistant bullcrap.

Not all Gnostics believed that. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a higher percentage of Xtians who believed everything was evil.

Pilzkopf · 07-09-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

What are your religious beliefs, if you have any?

I'm a godless, unrepentant, blasphemous, sinful heathen.

boo boo · 07-09-2007, 07:15 PM

Ah? An Atheist?

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Pilzkopf One Sick Sonuvabitch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Der Autobahn of life! Posts: 49	Or, here's a biggie: He lied about his station. Before the Bible was edited down into the KJV; before the Douay bible; even before the Latin Vulgate; when Xtianity was being formed, there was another God above the one that is featured in the Old Testament (and, later, in the New Testament). The God that everyone talks about is only a creator of the physical universe and being blind and ignorant of his origin, was deluded into thinking that He was alone. He was also considered to be evil, as he had created the universe and all material was considered to be evil. Let's say that the Gnostics weren't a very happy bunch. But, this was considered part of Xtian doctrine until competing factions had decided to destroy most of these writings to further their agenda. Nothing like a good coverup to make Him look good after a few millennia. __________________