anticipation

The bible is based off the teachings and parables preached by Jesus Christ. No one is suggesting that it is God's word, mainly due to the fact that almost all of it is up to an individual's interperetation. The stories and fables accounted in the Bible are moral messages intended to influence people to live a good life. What does it matter that God doesn't come down and tell you these things?

and not only is this completely incorrect, it has little to do with the matter at hand. Hell is not a creation of the Catholic Church, the idea has existed for hundreds of years before Catholicism was even conceived. You're a Jew, yet you know nothing of the portrayal of "Gehenna" as a final resting place for the wicked? Previous terms for what is comomonly known today as "hell" are the Greek Hades, Buddhist Naraka, and the Islamic Jahannam. Now, are you going to tell me that all of those religions based their ideas of Hell off of the Catholic Church?

MHDTV

The Buddhists didn't belive in a final resting place fot the dead. I'm not sure about Islam, but Hades Kingdom was very different from the Christian concept of Hell. Anyway, what you said has little to do with my point, that Hell wasn't present in the Christian Religion until the Church started using it as a political tool.

sleepy jack

Yeah I forgot about Adam, Jesus and Eve.

Are you serious? I hear the bible is God's word all the time, just go to any church and ask what it is and they'll probably say God's word. I don't think its God's word because alot of it our stories that are in relation to him to focus on other people, but plenty of people still suggest and say it is.

The entire basis of the christian religion is they were saved because jesus died for their sins and that enabled them to go to heaven, thats not just some pick me up to influence people to lead a good life or guilt them into it. A christian would have to have complete faith in that and believe its more than just a 'moral message.' Before you talk about the bible, maybe you should get your shit straight.

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Frances

A Matrix reference in a bible thread? This could get deeeeep man.


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Sorry, the only thing i have to contribute to this thread is to tell you:
1) I'm not religious.
2) I've never read the Bible.
3) I don't plan to.

I'll leave now.

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