Literal Interpretation of the Bible. (member, quote, history, Whip)

MHDTV · 07-04-2007, 09:58 PM

God didn't come down and reject anything else, did he?

Inuzuka Skysword · 07-04-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

God didn't come down and reject anything else, did he?

Through what I believe to be his word he has rejected many things. Christianity can be a very personal religion in some areas and faith is one of them. After all if God was backed up with 100% fact and no faith then how would we truly love him when our human nature will basically make us take the easy way out by saying we love him just so we can avoid hell, which in the end we wouldn't because we wouldn't be loving him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength.

MHDTV · 07-04-2007, 10:12 PM

Hell was made up by the Catholic Church. Anyway, you're essentially saying you can't prove you're point. To me God is like String Theory. We can't prove he exists and we can't prove he doesn't.

Inuzuka Skysword · 07-04-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

Hell was made up by the Catholic Church. Anyway, you're essentially saying you can't prove you're point. To me God is like String Theory. We can't prove he exists and we can't prove he doesn't.

And the Bible says that like I stated above. It would not be true faith if we had a definite reason he was real.

OOT: Man this conversation is reminding me of the Matrix and its epic allegoricalness.

MHDTV · 07-04-2007, 10:22 PM

Well that was kind of redundant...Anyway you still haven't talked about my original point about the Bible being warped beyond recognition by human interpretation.

Inuzuka Skysword · 07-04-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

Well that was kind of redundant...Anyway you still haven't talked about my original point about the Bible being warped beyond recognition by human interpretation.

Yes I did. It is impossible to consider it a fact because we do not have 100% proof that humans tainted the Bible.

It is really all about personal choice, which is what it comes down to.

MHDTV · 07-04-2007, 10:36 PM

We have 99.999% proof though. Honestly, are you saying the Bible was never changed in one the milllions of translations it been through?

anticipation · 07-05-2007, 01:02 PM

The bible is based off the teachings and parables preached by Jesus Christ. No one is suggesting that it is God's word, mainly due to the fact that almost all of it is up to an individual's interperetation. The stories and fables accounted in the Bible are moral messages intended to influence people to live a good life. What does it matter that God doesn't come down and tell you these things?

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

Hell was made up by the Catholic Church

and not only is this completely incorrect, it has little to do with the matter at hand. Hell is not a creation of the Catholic Church, the idea has existed for hundreds of years before Catholicism was even conceived. You're a Jew, yet you know nothing of the portrayal of "Gehenna" as a final resting place for the wicked? Previous terms for what is comomonly known today as "hell" are the Greek Hades, Buddhist Naraka, and the Islamic Jahannam. Now, are you going to tell me that all of those religions based their ideas of Hell off of the Catholic Church?

MHDTV · 07-05-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

The bible is based off the teachings and parables preached by Jesus Christ. No one is suggesting that it is God's word, mainly due to the fact that almost all of it is up to an individual's interperetation. The stories and fables accounted in the Bible are moral messages intended to influence people to live a good life. What does it matter that God doesn't come down and tell you these things?

and not only is this completely incorrect, it has little to do with the matter at hand. Hell is not a creation of the Catholic Church, the idea has existed for hundreds of years before Catholicism was even conceived. You're a Jew, yet you know nothing of the portrayal of "Gehenna" as a final resting place for the wicked? Previous terms for what is comomonly known today as "hell" are the Greek Hades, Buddhist Naraka, and the Islamic Jahannam. Now, are you going to tell me that all of those religions based their ideas of Hell off of the Catholic Church?

The Buddhists didn't belive in a final resting place fot the dead. I'm not sure about Islam, but Hades Kingdom was very different from the Christian concept of Hell. Anyway, what you said has little to do with my point, that Hell wasn't present in the Christian Religion until the Church started using it as a political tool.

sleepy jack · 07-05-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

The bible is based off the teachings and parables preached by Jesus Christ.

Yeah I forgot about Adam, Jesus and Eve.

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

No one is suggesting that it is God's word, mainly due to the fact that almost all of it is up to an individual's interperetation.

Are you serious? I hear the bible is God's word all the time, just go to any church and ask what it is and they'll probably say God's word. I don't think its God's word because alot of it our stories that are in relation to him to focus on other people, but plenty of people still suggest and say it is.

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

The stories and fables accounted in the Bible are moral messages intended to influence people to live a good life. What does it matter that God doesn't come down and tell you these things?

The entire basis of the christian religion is they were saved because jesus died for their sins and that enabled them to go to heaven, thats not just some pick me up to influence people to lead a good life or guilt them into it. A christian would have to have complete faith in that and believe its more than just a 'moral message.' Before you talk about the bible, maybe you should get your shit straight.

07-04-2007, 09:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
MHDTV Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berkeley, California Posts: 697	God didn't come down and reject anything else, did he?

07-04-2007, 10:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
MHDTV Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berkeley, California Posts: 697	Hell was made up by the Catholic Church. Anyway, you're essentially saying you can't prove you're point. To me God is like String Theory. We can't prove he exists and we can't prove he doesn't.

07-04-2007, 10:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
MHDTV Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berkeley, California Posts: 697	Well that was kind of redundant...Anyway you still haven't talked about my original point about the Bible being warped beyond recognition by human interpretation.

07-04-2007, 10:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
MHDTV Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berkeley, California Posts: 697	We have 99.999% proof though. Honestly, are you saying the Bible was never changed in one the milllions of translations it been through?